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On Triceratops, there are some really fasinating
things to note. In contrast to old arguments of Triceratops galloping at 45
kilometers an hour, recent looks into it's limbs, which have the front limbs
sprawing (which have been poorly understood anyway, having reconstructed with
some hardosaur parts in the first place!) indicate that this was quite a slow
animal indeed. Not painfully slow, but no where being able to gallop or charge a
Tyrannosaur sucessfully. That removes it's main and most commonly assumed method
of defense, by charging a Tyrannosaurid. The horns are another problem, though
impressive, were positioned quite far out of the way to be brought in usefully in
a pitch (the animal had to lower it's head a great deal, totally removing it's
targer from sight, leaving it ignorant and vulnerable to attack if the predator
sidesteps of moves out of the way). A lone Triceratops would have little chance
of standing up to Tyrannosaurus one-on-one,
but one thing about the animal was that it could most likely change facing
extremely fast, so the idea of Triceratops defense was more passive then active,
constantly facing the predator rather then charging (assuming the predator didn't
have the advantage of surprise). A charging Triceratops would most likely miss
the target and get flanked anyway. I believe Triceratops was more of a
team-player in survival, rather then an animal capable of taking on Tyrannosaurus
one-to-one.
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
December 16, 2001
"but it's thighn bone is longer than it's shin bone
making it a slow runner"
I really wonder where you are getting this from, because Tyrannosaurus had
extremely gracile limbs, measurement for measurement, compariable to that of
modern ostrichs. If you want to look at an animal with extremely long upper limb
bones and short shins, look at the raptors, commonly and misguidedly considered
"fast" runners. I wonder where on earth Horner got his "measurements" for
Tyrannosaurid limbs from anyway. when he was immediately refuted by another
paleontologist who had done specialized work in that matter, Tom
Holtz.
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
December 16, 2001
Another less-known Edmontosaurus fossil actually had
a T.rex tooth fused in a healed over bite mark in it's pelvis, just for you to
know.
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
December 16, 2001
"OH PLLLEEAAASSSEEE REX HUNTED ANKLOSAURS ALL HE HAD
TO DO WAS STEP ON THEM THERE WERE NOT TALL AT ALL SCIENTEST SAID REX BODY WAS
DESIGNED FOR A QUICK FLEXIBILTY AND WAS ABLE TO DODGE ANKYS SWING WITH ITS CLUB
LIKE TAIL REAL GOOD THERE ARE ANKYS SKEKETONS THAT SHOW NIG PREDATORS THAT STEP
ON IT WITH ITS WEIGHT CRUSHING ITS SHELL AND OTHER SHIT LIKE THAT"
I don't think a T Rex standing on an Anklyosaurus would do much (if any) damage
to the anklyosaurus. Anklyosaurus armor was VERY strong and the T Rex would
probably get stabbed by the spikes on anklyosaurus's armor. And it would be very
hard for a 12 meter long T Rex to dodge the anklyosaurus's tail and the t Rex
wouldn't risk it anyway because if the anklyosaurus did get the T Rex it could
easily kill the T Rex.
from Tom G,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 16, 2001
OH PLLLEEAAASSSEEE REX HUNTED ANKLOSAURS ALL HE HAD
TO DO WAS STEP ON THEM THERE WERE NOT TALL AT ALL SCIENTEST SAID REX BODY WAS
DESIGNED FOR A QUICK FLEXIBILTY AND WAS ABLE TO DODGE ANKYS SWING WITH ITS CLUB
LIKE TAIL REAL GOOD THERE ARE ANKYS SKEKETONS THAT SHOW NIG PREDATORS THAT STEP
ON IT WITH ITS WEIGHT CRUSHING ITS SHELL AND OTHER SHIT LIKE THAT
from screw spino,
age 19,
dc,
dc,
usa;
December 16, 2001
OH PLLLEEAAASSSEEE REX HUNTED ANKLOSAURS ALL HE HAD
TO DO WAS STEP ON THEM THERE WERE NOT TALL AT ALL SCIENTEST SAID REX BODY WAS
DESIGNED FOR A QUICK FLEXIBILTY AND WAS ABLE TO DODGE ANKYS SWING WITH ITS CLUB
LIKE TAIL REAL GOOD THERE ARE ANKYS SKEKETONS THAT SHOW NIG PREDATORS THAT STEP
ON IT WITH ITS WEIGHT CRUSHING ITS SHELL AND OTHER SHIT LIKE THAT
from screw spino,
age 19,
dc,
dc,
usa;
December 16, 2001
if megaraptor was bigger than Utahraptor, I beleive it would be about 9-10 feeet
tall.
from Evan,
age 12,
?,
?,
?;
December 14, 2001
It went for the easiest targets"
Of course. No matter how strong and powerful a predator is, it always tries to
go for the easiest meal.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 14, 2001
"healed over grooves"
Oh, sorry, I think the trike pelvis was from a trike that didn't escape, or
was scaevnged.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 14, 2001
"Then start believing, for such a specimen has been known for sometime now."
You're absolutely correct Ten - Shun. But it's nowhere near the only specimen!
There's a triceratops femur, (or pubis, I can't remeber,) with T - Rex tooth
marks, and a trike frill with T - Rex tooth dents.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 14, 2001
"Plus, all the scintific evidence...."
What "scientific evidence"? I hope you are not referring to the dribble
Horner spews out. Yes, there is evidence of T.rex feeding on its
contemporaries, Triceratops and Edmontosaurus; but whether it killed them or
not is very difficult to conclude.
"...points to the fact that TRex was a scavenger."
Studies on the energy needs of a 6 1/2 ton adult Tyrannosaurus rex indicate
that it would be impossible to meet its needs on an purely scavenger
lifestyle. It would simply not find enough meat before it expired of hunger.
"If we ever uncover a dinosaur with healed over grooves in its bones from a
TRex tooth, then I'll be a believer."
Then start believing, for such a specimen has been known for sometime now.
And I quote :
"Carpenter, on the other hand, has provided solid proof of predaceous
behavior, in the form of an unsuccessful attack by a T.rex on an adult
Edmontosaurus. The intended prey escaped with several broken tailbones that
later healed. The only animal with the stature, proper dentition, and biting
force to account for this injury is T.rex." (Scientific American Book of
Dinosaurs, Breathing Life into Tyrannosaurus Rex, p.274)
from Ten-Shun,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 13, 2001
I don't think it would be worth the TRex's time or
energy to hunt down trikes. It was just too dangerous of a proposal.
Predators in the wild get knocked down and run over all the time. Such a fall
could be fatal for TRex. It was most likely a scavenger. However, that
doesn't mean that it was not a dangerous dinosaur. Plus, all the scintific
evidence points to the fact that TRex was a scavenger. If we ever uncover a
dinosaur with healed over grooves in its bones from a TRex tooth, then I'll be
a believer.
from Adam,
age 19,
?,
?,
?;
December 13, 2001
"trex is my third favorite dinosaur now. what's
this about it attacking slow prey?"
It probably tried to pick off slower individuals. It went for the easiest
targets, it's quite logical to do that, from it's point of view. Even if it
had ultra - powerful jaws.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 13, 2001
"the t-rex did have the most powerful bite of all time, but it's thigh bone is longer than it's shin bone making it a slow
runner"
Yes, but it had very powerful, strong, and gracile legs, so it probably didn't
run very fast, about 34/kmh (still much faster than an olympic sprinter;) but
could probably maintain it's speed for a long time, it probably ran down
hadrosaurs and trikes, when they where dropping of exhaustion the jaws of T -
Rex where upon them.
I have this "theory." When lions hunt buffalo, a very strong and dangerous
animal, responsible for many human deaths, they try to panic the herd, break
it up and make it run. If the buffalo stand up to the lions, the lions can't
do much, but if the lions succeed in panicking the buffalo, and they stampede,
the lions can pick off a slow andividual, separate it from the herd, and bring
it down. So T - Rex probably roared at trikes, to scare them and make them
stampede. It couldn't stand up to an angry wall of horns, but if the trikes
ran away, the T - Rex could keep up behind them. Trikes had short, robust, but
strong limbs, so they could probably maintain speed for a short while. When
individuals start to tire, and end up at the back of the herd, separated, the
T - Rex could strike, bringing it's super - powerful jaws into
play.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 13, 2001
"hey da masta, sorry about all the stuff I said.do you really think that a spinosaurus could beat a t-rex?"
[scratches head]
When did I say that? I don't think Spino can beat T - Rex.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 13, 2001
trex is my third favorite dinosaur now. what's this about it attacking slow prey?
from Diloph,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 12, 2001
the t-rex did have the most powerful bite of all
time, but it's thigh
bone is longer than it's shin bone making it a slow runner
from DanW,
age ?,
?,
PA,
USA;
December 10, 2001
hey da masta, sorry about all the stuff I said.do
you really think that a spinosaurus could beat a t-rex?
from DanW,
age ?,
?,
PA,
USA;
December 10, 2001
Tyrannosaurs where like any predator, just a bit
more powerfull.
I think they where very careful when they hunted, and went for unprotected
young or disabled individuals.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 9, 2001
"Actually, it's quite easy for T-Rex
to kill an Ankylosaurus."
An INFANT, yes. But not an adult.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 7, 2001
A good deal of Ankylosaurid fossils
are found flipped on their back though!
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 7, 2001
Actually, it's pretty easy for
Tyrannosaurus to defeat Ankylosaurus. Ankylosaurus may be 3 tons
heavier then Tyrannosaurus, being built for bulk, but the trick is
getting to that size. When it was young, Ankylosaurus most likely
suffered massive losses before getting to the adult stage, when
their armour was not thick enough and they were too slow to run
away. When young, Ankylosaurus must have been incredibly
vulnerable, lacking the speed to run away and having the
protective parent (if they had any) too slow to handle an attack
from a Tyrannosaurus. No wonder they were rare. Prehaps
Ankylosaurus didn't take care of it's young at all, it just laid a
mighty number of eggs to leave to the predators, in hope that at
least one or two would make it through.
from Leonard,
age 14,
?,
?,
?;
December 7, 2001
I am not starting a battle or debate.I
mean some scripts I saw were certainly not good.Some t-rex
fans,long time ago said that all dinos became extinct because
t-rex ate them up I don't think that is educational.Its always
t-rex here and there every dinosaur would lose.The only other type
of dinosaur able to defeat it,is another tyrannosaurus.Why did
dinos grow amour and stuff?They weren't useless you know.Would
tyrannosaurus be able to survive a large number of scrathes blows
and stabs all at once?
from Donovan c,
age 12,
?,
singapore,
?;
December 5, 2001
Yes, I concur with John. I think
Ankylosaurus could be too much for a T-Rex, judging by the armor
and club tail. One of the few ways T-Rex could have killed an
Ankylosaurus would be to flip it over, but that would be
difficult. Of course, T-Rex didn't try to hunt Ankylosaurs, unless
it was starving...
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 4, 2001
"Was there any dinosaur that could
beat t-rex?"
Out of the many dinos found, there is very little that could kill
t-rex. The only thing that could probably kill t-rex is other
t-rex's. If a t-rex was juvinall then more dinos would have a
better chance. Triceritops probably could kill rex accasionally,
and the same for anklysaurus, I don't think rex would try to kill
an anklasaurus though. That's probably it until new dinos are
discovered.
from T-master,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 4, 2001
Yeah, everything can beat a
T-rex....when they're hatchlings of course. When you mean adult I
think other rexes or maybe triceratops(though more ofen rexes kill
them)because if they never died they would still be around
today.
from Diloph,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 4, 2001
"Is there any dinosaur able to defeat
t-rex?"
Not fairly and squarely, T.rex could easily kill almost any
dinosaur it faced (including the supersauropods). The only animal
I can think of that can put up solid resistance to T.rex is
Ankylosaurus and co., who were specicalized themselves to the
extreme to defend themselves against T.rex. But even they were not
entirely immune to Tyrannosaurus.
from John,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 4, 2001
Is there any dinosaur able to defeat
t-rex?
from Donovan c.,
age 12,
?,
singapore,
?;
December 3, 2001
"mostly ever t-rex found has at least
on trike horn in it."
Really? All the T.rex fossils I know haven't been noted to show
this feature, you should think it makes the news.
"Don't get me wrong, I ment the Trike frill in the T-Rex
corpolite. If paleontologists really did find evidence that a
T-Rex had bitten through a Trike frill I would believe that."
Actually, I think they were refering to one Triceratops skull with
a huge chunk taken out of the frill from a Tyrannosaurus rex bite
(just about the only animal that can do that). Some have
speculated that the bite was actually caused by the Tyrannosaurus
when it bit a Triceratops on the head in defense to prevent itself
from being stabbed during an attack. But notice the word here is
speculated.
"It is the thug community that is made proud by abuse."
I don't want to say this but look who's talking?
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
December 3, 2001
Don't get me wrong, I ment the Trike
frill in the T-Rex corpolite. If paleontologists really did find
evidence that a T-Rex had bitten through a Trike frill I would
believe that.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 3, 2001
Actually, the Triceratops frill isn't
evidence that T-Rex killed the Trike, because the T-Rex simply
could have chewed up a dead Trike it found! But I firmly believ a
T-Rex could kill a Triceratops.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 3, 2001
I would a that @ hotmail. com I had
ever give me heart attack people like that summerization soul to
us never expect the truth
you bigf bully
from 132-Jtong,
age 12,
B. c,
B.c.,
Bristh C;
December 3, 2001
A triceritops would be a tough
challenge for rex, mostly ever t-rex found has at least on trike
horn in it. but then again, a lot of trikes found have rex bites
in them. T-rex had an awsome bite, and could slice through trike
bones like a knife going through butter. Triceritops probably
killed rex but not as many times as rex killed triceritops. And a
ton of rex dung has had trike bone. But through many movies and
stories, triceritops and rex have been arch
enemeys.
from T-master,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 2, 2001
I don't think I can respect
Triceratops, it's hard to respect an animal you had to dig out of
fossilized dung.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 2, 2001
"T-rex couldn't manage to defeat an
angry Triceratops on the run,didn't it? Please welcome the new
king of the dinosaurs."
Sadly, you spoke too soon. Apparently T-Rex was more powerful as
you thought as they found Triceratops frill bones in its dung.
Man, you have to be one tough and cool dino to do that to a
Triceratops, being able to bite through its frill and then survive
to pass it out. A Triceratops skull has been also found with a
T-Rex bite mark that destroyed a large area of the frill.
Scientists determined that the wound was caused while the animal
was alive and during its last fight, where the T-Rex bit it on the
head FROM THE FRONT to prevent itself from being stabbed,
apparently it was sucessful for the Triceratops was found
throughly eaten and no sign of any T-Rex fossils around indicated
that T-Rex took no losses in that fight. Yup, Triceratops died
constantly under T-Rex. Hardly call Triceratops a king, it was
among the most dangerous of herbivores but hardly a match for
T-Rex. T-Rex probably got a 100:1 kill loss ration on that
thing.
from Cool man!,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 2, 2001
"T-rex couldn't defeat an angry
Triceratops on the run..."
Triceratops was certainly challenging. Now Paleontologist believe
it could run fairly fast when charging an enemy, much like the
modern day Rhinoceros. But T-rex could defeat a Triceratops.
The T-Rex bursts out of the trees and bites down hard and kills
the Triceratops. In any case, T-Rex could kill a single
Triceratops, but when they were in herds it was a dangerous task
even for T-Rex.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 2, 2001
"Carry on laddies, and do yer dinosaur
and the scientific community proud."
To make the scientific community proud you need to take interest
and talk about the given subject, think about it, read about it,
help people to take interest in it. It is the thug community that
is made proud by abuse.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 2, 2001
I don't know why t-rex fans have an
insulting habit.What business of mine?Well,it used to happened to
me twice for almost a week.Look,every dinosaur is an animal,there
is no,killing or winning or pathtic thing,meat eaters kill only to
survive and defense.
from Donovan c.,
age 12,
?,
singapore,
?;
December 1, 2001
T-rex couldn't manage to defeat an
angry Triceratops on the run,didn't it? Please welcome the new
king of the dinosaurs.
from Mikey V.,
age 9,
St-Bruno,
Quebec,
Canada;
December 1, 2001
Raptors ^&*
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 1, 2001
"Actually, Leonard does strike up a
real concern. Your maturity level in taking adversity and
responding to it in an apporiate manner is really low. While you
implore others to treat you good, you yourself start the adversity
by using all manners of bad and underhand tatics onto
them*REALLY?*. I've seen the Mr. Honkie Albertosaurus attack *IS
IT ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS? I WAS NOT ATTACKING HIM.* by you
everybody is talking about and what a discusting piece of work.
And this IS the person who freely insults others and responds to
them in such a way and HE expects people to treat him good though
he treats them like dirt*I RESPECT HONKIE TONG DEEPLY. I RESPECT
MANY PEOPLE HERE. I WOULD RESPECT YOU, TOO, IF I HAD SOMETHING TO
RESPECT YOU FOR. I HAVE A REASON TO DISRESPECT YOU, BUT DON'T
WORRY, I AM NEUTRAL.*? Pitree, I say, he's no royality lads, he's
no punching bag, it's too good a fate. He should be a target board
to be preforated by multitudes of firea!
rms of all sorts*YOU ARE EVIL AND SADISTIC. GO ON A NAZI SITE
WHERE YOU BELONG.*. And he jolly well deserves it paid in full.
Give these people no quarter, they don't deserve any. Carry on
laddies, and do yer dinosaur and the scientific community proud."
They're stopping now, don't worry. They're seeing sense. You want
me to go mad don't you? (Sorry again Leonard.) I really am
learning from Honkie well. My caps lock is only ever to
distinguish my writing on this page from yours. And I think it's
sad that someone comes to a children's dinosaur site and all he
does is to make trouble, and attack someone. Do you want to talk
about dinosaurs or not? Because that's what you should be here
for. If you're not, go away somewhere else. If you decide to stay
and talk about dinosaurs then I'll be happy to receive you. And
your attitude disturbs me "they deserve to be firearm
targets,etc." This is a site for children! People who are nasty to
people who are nasty to them are just as nasty the nasty people
who did it to them in the first place. Know I understand Honkie's
smooth reaction. Thank you, Honkie.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 1, 2001
"da masta deserves to be swarmed."
Do I then, huh? And if I say something angry now I'll be attacked,
even though I was provoked. GET NICE OR GET OFF is my message to
you mate.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
December 1, 2001
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