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"In JPIII Spinosaurus had a crocidile like
snout. I would like to know if anyone knows if this is true? Or is it
just Hollywood?
Oh great; you're back!
Tip: Never beleive anything you see in a JP movie. Ever.
But Spinosaurus aegyptiacus and S. morroccensis both had elongated,
crocodile - like snouts lined with eighty or so long, straight teeth.
I'd say the JPIII Spinosaurus was reasonably accurate in terms of
appearance. Do you guys agree?
However, Spinosaurus could not beat T - rex in my opinion.
One of two outcomes I think:
1) They would not fight. Even if T - rex heals really well and is what
you would call "cold blooded," I'm sure he would not want to risk
serious injury in a fight. Either would spinosaurus. What's more with
Spinosaurus' tall, blood - filled sail, It could display to the T - rex
and the T - rex may well get discouraged from starting a fight,
although it has much stronger jaws, which seems to be the HRF's main
argument. Anyway, the T - rex doesn't know that it has the strongest
jaws of any living animal, and considering it never met Spinosaurs
since it lived at a different time in a different place it would
certainly not know and be very wary about this new opponent.
2) T - rex is not much stronger than spinosaurus, and although it could
crush Spinosaurus' neck with one bite, it would itself get very injured
by Spinosaurus' retaliation. But T - rex has one more advantage:
Spinosaurus' sail, which I talked about earlier. Although it is a
useful display tool to signal to one another and to other animals to
make itself seem bigger and stronger, it is full of blood vessels,
veins and arteries. If that very fragile sail got ripped, or torn, or
damaged in any way, then Spinosaurus would very soon bleed to death.
So although the T - rex emerges the winner, I wouldn't say that it's as
clear - cut as the HRF would put it.
Could it beat the T Rex?"
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 12, 2002
"I'm almost done with the first chapter of
my new DWF story, and I already finished the prolugue. Expect it in by
tomorrow."
Great! I keep going on the computer to write more story, but I have too
little willpower to stop myself playing Unreal Tournament instead.
Blasted computer games, if you're an addict expect your life to be
destroyed.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 12, 2002
JC, help! Two of my dino stories are gone,
and the story I recently posted won't show up!
from Joe Bob B.,
age 11,
Menlo Park,
?;
April 12, 2002
It's fixed. JC
"The Ceratosaurs were more primitive and
more rare."
Hmm, we can't be totally 100% sure of this. Despite there being a great
chance of this being true, we may not have the full picture. The fossil
record is very patchy and incomplete.
But I agree that it was much more primitive; it's four fingered hands
betray it's closeness to the Herrerrasauria.
What I don't get is the "neoceratosauria," which allegedly contains
Dilophosaurus! Where exactly in the theropod cladistics are the
"neoceratosauria" and what do they contain? I'm not very clear on
that.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 12, 2002
"Just having a couple more people would be
good thing.
Aw, I've actually had enough drilling my points to do with this into
the HRF' skulls! Just because one animal is better than another does
not mean that the first animal is weak. OK a tiger can kill a wolf, but
that does not mean that the wolf is a scavenger, nor does it mean that
it is a "rubbish" hunter. And yes, I do realise that you do only wrote
the sentence to get a discussion going, but in this case our views are
the same, so there will be no discussion. Probably.
My number of posts before I leave for Paris is limited, so I'd better
make the most of it.
If someone were to say to any one of you: "Allosaurus was a scavenger
because it could not hunt well and T-rex was more advanced" what would
you reply? I'm trying to get more discussion going, I don't really
believe the sentence in quotations."
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 12, 2002
In JPIII Spinosaurus had a crocidile like
snout. I would like to know if anyone knows if this is true? Or is it
just Hollywood?
Could it beat the T Rex?
from Ian,
age 8,
North Vernon,
IN, USA;
April 11, 2002
"'And your going to Paris Tim?"
Yup. I'm going to Paris for a little over a week. In fact, I'm leaving
later today.
Allosaurus was the largest and most powerful predator of its time. The
Ceratosaurs were moree primitive and more rare. I'm glad you responded
to that post, Tom G.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 11, 2002
If someone said "Allosaurus was a scavenger
because it could not hunt well and T-rex was more advanced" to me i
would say this.
what makes you think Allosaurus didn't hunt well? Its was one of the
most advanced large predators of the Jurassic and (as far as I know)
the most succesful large predator of the jurassic so I think it did
hunt well. T rex and Allosaurus hunted in different ways so they
evolved in different ways and evolution would be pretty stuffed up if T
rex wasn't a bit more advanced than Allosaurus because there's about 80
million years between them. And your going to Paris Tim?
from Tom G,
age 13,
Thames coast,
Waikato, New Zealand;
April 10, 2002
I'm almost done with the first chapter of
my new DWF story, and I already finished the prolugue. Expect it in by
tomorrow.
from Joe Bob B.,
age 11,
Menlo Park,
?,
?;
April 10, 2002
Just having a couple more people would be
good thing.
My number of posts before I leave for Paris is limited, so I'd better
make the most of it.
If someone were to say to any one of you: "Allosaurus was a scavenger
because it could not hunt well and T-rex was more advanced" what would
you reply? I'm trying to get more discussion going, I don't really
believe the sentence in quotations.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 10, 2002
"What is the name of the encyclopedia are
we arguing over? I've seen some bad childish dinosaur books use the
word "encyclopedia" in the title.
On a different topic; this is the last ever post here by Brad, December
30th, before the change.
Sigh. I'm really missing these discussions.
from Brad, age 14, Woodville, ON, Canada; December 30, 2001"
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 10, 2002
"And Marsh was quite a biggie at the time
so I thought that it could be him."
As I said, you weren't far from being right, it was a good
guess
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 9, 2002
"Good guess, but it was Harry Govier Seeley
in 1877."
Aw! Just I knew that after all those really big finds by Cope and Marsh
in the Bone Wars, like ceratopsian and lambeosaurine dinosaurs, and
large sauropods and theropods, the saurischia and ornithischia where
made because you could really see the difference between the two sub
orders.
And Marsh was quite a biggie at the time so I thought that it could be
him.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 9, 2002
"Othneil Charles Marsh, I think, in the
year..."
Good guess, but it was Harry Govier Seeley in 1877.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 8, 2002
"D'oh, "present PERFECT," I meant!"
It can be confusing when there's also PERFECT and IMPERFECT, two
different past tenses. I also sometimes get confused when thinking
about the different Declinations and Cojugations, like the -a
declination and the -us declination
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 8, 2002
"Let's see who can answer this: Who first
divided the Dinosauria into the Ornithischia and the Saurischia and
when did he do it?"
Othneil Charles Marsh, I think, in the year...
well, I don't like taking risks in trivia.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 8, 2002
"present prefect"
D'oh, "present PERFECT," I meant!
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 8, 2002
"It's Mega Anna."
Oh, thanks. Annum is the present prefect tense, isn't
it?
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 8, 2002
"Mega Annum or something)"
It's Mega Anna.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 8, 2002
Let's see who can answer this: Who first
divided the Dinosauria into the Ornithischia and the Saurischia and
when did he do it?
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?;
April 7, 2002
Most large vertebrates that travel in large
groups travel in groups all the time, and we know that sauropods
travelled in groups at least some of the time. Also, large vertebrates
that travel in herds generally protect their young. Yes I'm thinking
mainly about elephants.
Also, remember my theory? Well, if it's true, allosaurus wouldn't need
to eat so often, and could survive very bad injuries. So it may well
have attacked sick and young sauropods in small groups.
Another point is that dinosaurs could have changed. By the cretacious
they may already have been endotherms; nobody has measured the predator
- prey ratios then. They didn't all have to be ectotherms all the time.
I was only talking about the late jurassic in my theory. (When I was
talking about T - rex I was just speculating.)
Another point is that I could be wrong. It's unlikely in my opinion
that I'm wrong about the herbivores, especially the giant sauropods,
but in the case of Allosaurus I am kinda taking a risk.
Remember, most of the carnivores for late jurassic times come from that
tar pit or something, where something like 64 Allosaurs died.
I can't remember the details, (help me out Tim if you can,) but that
figure would significantly increase the ammount of carnivores for the
late jurassic USA fossil record. Herbivores would only get stuck
occasionally, whilst wading too deep into the water and getting stuck
in the tar. Carnivores would be attracted in large quantities, all that
meat just lying there would seem to the Allosaur to be just pleading to
be eaten! So all these Allosaurs would probably increase the ammount of
carnivores in the late jurassic USA fossil record by about TEN TIMES,
and distort the predator - prey ratio in the fossil record unnaturally
and quite considerably. If you subtract most of these Allosaurs from
the fossil record, YOU GET AN ENDOTHERMIC PREDATOR - PREY RATIO!
But please remember that that says nothing about the herbivores.
Whether the Allosaur is eating an endothermic or ectothermic
Camptosaurus really does not matter to the Allosaur.
But the predator - prey ratio is now endothermic, unless someone comes
up with something else interesting!
Also, I can't remember if I have already made this point or not:
The arms from 75ma (Mega Annum or something) and 65ma Tyrannosaurs
should be compared. I bet that the 65ma Tyrannosaurus' arms will be
smaller than the Tyrannosaur from 75ma.
T - rex did not use it's arms for ANYTHING, that's why they are so
small!!!
from da masta,
age 14,
Birmingham,
?;
April 7, 2002
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