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Once again, I'd like to warn
people from calling the Rigby Rex a seperate species based on
its size. As of yet, there is still nothing to suggest the
Tyrannosaurus Rigby found is a new species. Besides,
Tyrannosaurus Imperator is the name of the fossil, not the
name of a new species (there goes the media again) Prehaps
something should be done about the Dino Warz?
Besides, Horner and a few other experts have been turning up
FIVE other extra-sized Rexes similar in size to Rigby's and
certainly larger than Giganotosaurus and that new so called
"biggest" carnivore yet undescribed in South America. I don't
see us calling them Tyrannosaurus Imperator.
But it looks like the South Americans spoke too soon when
they thought they had the better of the North's Tyrant
Lizard. It fustrates me to see them go on and make up a
fallacy about Giganotosaurus stopping T.Rex from crossing
over to the South. (And not to mention a expert said that!)
That myth contuines to persist.
from Josh,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 17, 2001
Hello brudder. How are you?
from Short F.,
age 14,
?,
?,
?;
January 15, 2001
Well, welcome back. BBD is gone ..., and we have uncontested control of Dino Talk WA HA
HA HA HA HA HA! Okay, back to earth. DW, you missed an entire debate
with another person called ..., like ..., he's gone too. I
wonder why people always threaten to leave when they lose? Anyway,
meet my brother, Short F.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 15, 2001
I know, the Iguanodons are poorly done,
but the carnotaurs were pretty cool.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
January 15, 2001
My God, you people are still on the whole
T-Rex vs. Raptor debate? I guess some things never change :). Well, to
anyone who cares to listen, the reason I have been "away" so long was
that a lightning bolt fried my modem and I had to get a new one(Thank
God for Pacific Internet). So, what have I been missing (or have I
missed nothing at all)?
from DW,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 15, 2001
I'm
baaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaack...
from DW,
age 14,
Singapore!,
?,
?;
January 15, 2001
Hey guys, what do you think of the idea of
a Dino Warz board game? It's pretty popular with my younger siblings.
Do you want me to post it up here?
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
January 14, 2001
Dinosaur? What a spastic show! Why do you
one to have anything to do with it? Maybe they're the real reason of
the extinction of the dinosaurs, that we made so many dumb shows about
them that they got so embarrased and went off to die.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 14, 2001
So what's with this message board? Why is
it a chatroom instead of harmless dino talk? Whatever happened to the
old days when children were ? Oh well, it's all down the
drains. Now ers are cool, clothes are worse than ever, and
school is a thing that you talk about as "bad"?
from loo loo,
age 62,
Berington,
CA,
USA;
January 14, 2001
When is the Disney DINOSAUR movie on
video?
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
January 14, 2001
That's odd JC, I am the latest addition,
but the date of last addition under my name says 5 Jan!
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
January 14, 2001
I've changed it. JC
Take a break form all the unhappy things,
the next Old Blood is out.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
January 12, 2001
You know, it's odd how such a little thing
can develop into such a big affair. The whole notion of a true
Dinosaur fan fiction started in the 27th of September 2000. I was just
fiddeling around with an idea to take a dig at the raptor fans (the
anti-T.rex votes by the raptor fans were pretty rampant then) and as a
treat to all T.rex fans. You can still find the fan fic if you go
quite far back to find it. But for your convience, I'll provide it
here:
Welcome to the eonal dinosaur deathmatch, the contest in which all the
dinosaurs fight to see who will be king. In the last contet,
Tyrannosaurus Rex beat Allosaurus to be the champion, will he be able
to defend his title, lets find out! This contest only happens once
every 65 million years, so you better catch it now! Defending
Champion:Sue the T-Rex Opponents:Triceatops, Pachycephalosaurs,
Velociraptor ,Utaraptor ,Megaraptor, Gigantosaurus, Ankylosaurus,
Stegosaurus and Gallimius.
Well, this was the one that started it all, now, dinosaur fiction is
quite a blooming affair, with up to 10 major autors writing. You could
be next.
T-Rex:ROAAAAAARRRRR Who's first?
Pachy:Me! I'll take you out! (CHARGES.....POW!) Ha!direct hit!
T-Rex:Is that all you can do?
Pachy:Did I hurt you?
T-Rex:No but mabye something like this will work!(Crunch!)
Pachy:Ahhh! You bit through my thick skull! Impossible! (Dies)
(Pahcy's down, triceratops steps in the arena.)
T-Rex:ROAAAAAR
Triceratops: I avenge you! (charges with horns lowered) YAAAAAAAA!
Opps I missed! AHHHHHHH NOOO! STOP!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....(dies)
T-Rex:Yummy! Who's next?!
Stegosaurus: That......would be......me......AH! (Oh No!Stegosaurus is
too dumb too do anything, this is no fight!)
T-Rex:No contest! How about you Gigantosaurus? Gigantosaurus:(stomps
into arena) Yeah, its my turn to be king, I am bigger than you!
T-Rex:But I am stronger and smarter an faster! Take that (crunch!)
Gigantosaurus:AHHH! My leg! You bit off my leg! (Looks like a stumping
moment for Gigantosaurus, he bleeds to death)
T-Rex: Ha! size dosent matter!
Gallimimus:You're right about that!I'll show you! (Starts pecking)
T-Rex: No No, you got to try something like this...ROARRRR!
Gallimimus: AHHHHHHH (FAINTS AND DIES!) (Looks like Gallimimus really
did have a bird-like heart after all, a chicken heart! he died of
fright!)
T-Rex: Sighhhh the stuff they send me these days...... (Ankylosaurus
plods up)
Ankylosaurus: You watch me do you in!(swipes with tail)..huh?
missed!
T-Rex: I saw you do that move on my sister Suzie, in "Walking with
Dinosaurs) It won't work on my now! (Rams Ankylosaurus, who turns
turtle.)
Ankylosaurus: Help!Help! AHHHHH (Screams as Sue rips into his
underside...dies)
T-Rex: Common, Raptors, you next.
Raptors: Yeah, you're one, we're many! (SPLAT!)
Utaraptor:Hey, no fair, you stepped on Velociraptor!
T-Rex: Common, He was so small, I couldn't help it.
Megaraptor: Well, I am too big to be squashed! (leaps at T-Rex)
T-Rex: Ah, this is easy! (ducks)
Megaraptor: Huh? ahhhhhhh (sails over T-Rex and lands hard) My leggg!
I broke my leg!
T-Rex: Serves you right, you weight a ton but still try to jump 6
meters into the air. It's a small wonder you broke your leg.
Megaraptor:Get her Utaraptor, get her for m-(is cut off when Sue steps
on his head, crushing it.)
Utaraptor: Haaaaa Yaaaa (jumps onto Sue)
T-Rex: ow! (acts out scene in jusassic park where the T-Rex swarmed by
the raptor swings it into it's jaw and bites it.)
Utaraptor:Where did you learn that?
T-Rex: Wathc Jurassic Park, it's not accucrate, but I learned a few
moves from it.
Utaraptor: Thank yo-AHHHHHH (Dies as Sue chomps down)
T-Rex: Roarrrrr! I am the champ! hey what's this. (ANOTHER TEAM OF
Opponents:Triceatops, Pachycephalosaurs, Velociraptor ,Utaraptor
,Megaraptor, Gigantosaurus, Ankylosaurus, Stegosaurus and Gallimius
steps up)
Opposing force: We'll get you! everybody attack her!
T-Rex: Hey, that's not fair!
Opposing Force: Ha, we know, but we can't wait another 65 million
years!......Hey, who's that? (A huge shadow of a Tyrannosaurus of
incredible looms over them.)
Opposing Force: Oh no! It TYRANNOSAURUS-AHHHH NO YAAAAAAAAA AHHHHHHH
NO PLEASE NO AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OW OW OW AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. (The
opposing force is eaten up!)
T-Rex: Thank you emperor Sue-Imperator!
T-Imperator: Anytime queen Sue-Rex!
T-Rex: Say, what brings you here?
T-Imperator: Naaaa nobody wanted to fight me for the title of Emperor,
that's why I came here to watch you. I see, you are holding up our
family name pretty well.
T-Rex: Of course, the Tyrannosaurus will always be the rulers.
T-Imperator: Well, I gotta go now, bye little sister!
T-Rex:Bye big sister!
The End: It looks like T-Rex gets my vote for my favoutire dinosaur!
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
January 11, 2001
I'm not really the type to juist sit by
and watch people accuse me of being "pathetic" or "goofy", so I am
inclined to respond.
"Ive always succeeded in science so far and I still will..."
Hmm...a pretty daring statement to make, I wonder how you came to such
an idea? Maybe that's why you get so offended when we challange your
views...(gasp) we might break your "unblemished" record!
"They never answer me when I ask where they found this information so
I can see it for myself and get caught up."
If I wasn't wrong, didn't Billy Macdraw just give you a whole list of
such material? Anyway, it was Levine that stated the raptor rethinking
in this webpage in the first place. You really like to quote what
experts say do you? In fact, you seem to value what they say more than
the what the actual evidence says! Don't you have your own opinions?
Also, may I quote you?
"As to size of prey, this probably varied with the predator. .
Hmm, I like the way you quote, but on a closer look, this statement
does not mean anything at all! It simply states that prey size varied
with predator, it doesn't say that they must have hunted big prey!
Heck, your "paleontologist professor" could be saying that the raptors
were hunters of small prey for all that's worth. Stop screaming on the
net and go read a textbook on correct scientific procedures before you
shoot your mouth off.
"Notice the pettiness, chandler, like of Josh. Trying to quote a whole
dictionary to me."
Hmm, if you note, Josh also didn't know the meaning of "equivocal" at
first. He was kind enough to share it with people who might not know
it here. If you don't want to learn, it's alright with me.
" I wish he would stop trying to get me upset, it dont work and it
gets annoying when your trying to relax and someone is trying to
tease, really sad..."
Sorry, but my world dosen't exactly revolve around you. Does it look
like I vaguley care if you're happy or sad? I have better things to do
than to attack you. But seriously, your points are really easy to
shoot down for the simple fact they are weak, geddit W.E.A.K. Thank
you.
"To tell the truth, its more of trying to insult than dispatch. I ask
a question, and all this blows up in aggression and bitterness."
Oh really? It's more like you who blows up in agression and bitterness
when we correct you. Notice eariler, we corrected you nicely, but you
exploded...here, before you accuse me, let me show you.
I answered:
I hardly think anybody would think this an insult.
But you answered:
"Honkie TOng, I do have an answer for you. Raptors could swerve, twist
and move in mid-air and thats fact. Honkie Tong, go back to the other
forum, your not a real scientist and all you wanna do is fight because
your shallow and a snively, nerdy little worm without a life. Get
outta here. Ive seen what youve said, about the T.rex fan withwhoever
and in science, there is not a place for people who lie, falsify and
tell what is popular just cause its the popular vote. Most of what you
say is your opinion and thats ALL it is. HAhaha"
Ah ha! I'll give you another example:
My brother, Short F. said:
Apparently, you've accused him of talking trash and he demands you
show him evidence of that, but if you were really the good(and
victimised) guy you make yourself out to be, you wouldn't have
answered:
"See I like to talk dinosaurs, and many of people Im aorund dont like
to. So how come when I talk on here, people who dont even know me mess
with me? S... and his kind are cowards."
Hmm, not too good a response is it? My brother demanded an answer abut
why you accused him of talking trash and if you were really waht you
said, you wouldn't have called him a coward. Before you point fingers
at anybody else, note your own behaviour first. Nobody is going out to
kill you.
Josh made his motives rather clear, that he's not after yer blood, but
you accused him of being petty. Hmm, isn't that a rather clear case of
unprovoked overdefensiveness on your part?
I hope I have responded adequately to anybody who may be inclined to
view MadHatter as a victim. Thank you. Now lets get back to the
science. One more thing, I'm not ganging up on you, apparently,
everybody finds you annoying and decided hamtam you. Not my fault, I
can't stop them.
This has been answered by a paleontologist, professor, which means,
what he says is more than anything honkietong and levine say... "not
to diss you levine, your the man"
"Based on physics and biology, there is no reason to suggest how a
Utahraptor could have survived a fall from the provibal Iguanadon. Can
you offer an answer Madhatter? Can you suggest how a Utahraptor could
handle 100 kilonewtons?"
"Trash tok? What tokking you brudder? We got tok trash meh? You show
us lah then we believe. My brudder say aready, don't accuse us, show
us evidence, if not you're the one tokking trash! rite?"
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 10, 2001
Soon, after Old Blood ends. The third run
of Dino Warz will be bigger, have more characters and some
spinoffs.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
January 10, 2001
?, I finished extinction is for a reason
by both Scott and Alex dying off. Though, I think, I should write an
epilogue.
from Carchardontosaur,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 10, 2001
Billy Macdraw, when will the new Dino Warz
come out? I realy think Old Blood is exiting but I am also a Dino Warz
fan. Since the Dino Warz counterstrike, you haven't been so up to date
with Dino Warz. Brad, you realy need to get up to date.
from Reuben B.,
age 7,
Needham,
MA,
USA;
January 10, 2001
Err...anything you say,
Ruben.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 10, 2001
I am starting a new novel called Mesozoic
Techno-zoic. It has some things I predict will happen in twenty-first
century. For those who want to know who Momasaurus is, she is
Debisaur. (I know that because she is my mom)
from Reuben B.,
age 7,
Needham,
MA,
USA;
January 10, 2001
Wow Reuben B.! Mesozoic Techno-zoic is
awesome! What a cool idea.
from Mommasaurus,
age 39,
pangea,
MA,
USA;
January 9, 2001
I, too, have never ceased to be amazed by
the incredulus claims made by certain paleontologists on the raptors.
I must admit that some of these claims are so convincing, that faced
with a constant barage of them, one becomes more and more inclined to
believe them.
Also, one is tempted to believe them precisely becasue they tell us
what we want to believe- that the raptors were the deadilest, pack
hunting, fast and clean killers of big animals.
Restraint and rational rethinking of the evidence are the bane of any
urban lifestyle, Hence, these paleontologists either avoid mentioning
these essentials, or present them reluctantly in fine print, often
without emphasis.
Advising overzealous individuals on thinking about the raptors
sensibly has thus become a gargantuan task.
Often, they seek a incredible and incredulous word from
paleontologists to rid themselves of any doubts, failing to be
convinced that their original ideas need to be thought through slowly
and nonommiting contradictory evidence that may help them to achive a
accucrate picture.
I'm also troubled by people who scream: "Come on, its obvious raptors
were big prey hunters, just look at the claws, they were hard
hitters!"
It's ridiculous to exhort a statement like this for such superfical
reasons.
Our society must not adopt the compulsion to accept ideas about
dinosaurs based on how cosmetic, romantic or exciting they may be,
ommiting the fact that these ideas may have been based on sketchy or
fragmentory or equivocal evidence.
Rather, the priority should be to achive a rational, detailed and
nonommiting approach to dinosaurs and attain an accucrate view of them
by questioning, not accepting exciting ideas.
Sad to say, there is no shortcut to effectively obtaining even a
vaguely correct view of the raptors.
Looking at Tyrannosaurus, much ink had been spilled and many a fossil
have been studied and debated into finally putting him up as a
powerful predator with keen senses with some form of social behaviour
decended from the Coelurosaurs, as opposed the simple and
widely-accepted old theory of it being a slow, solitary scavenger with
poor eyesight decended from the Carnosaurs. One can just see the great
difference that can be put up once ideas are put aside and the
evidence restudied in even greater detail. Needless to say, the new
ideas about T.Rex were not popular at first, but have now emerged as
the shining glory of detailed paleontological work.
Looking at the raptors, one cannot but must notice the great
difference in the amount of work done restudying the evidence. We seem
to have gone so far on vague and sketchy evidence that we have
forgotten to restudy the evidence at hand and draw new and more
accucrate evidence from it. Granted, if we did so, the new, and more
accucrate image of the raptors will be extemely different indeed.
But do people want it that way? Maybe we don't, maybe we prefer to
think of the raptors as the superefficent movie-monsters they so
vividly represent in our minds. Any other idea or approach may be
considered heretical or offensive. We don't want to change our way, we
don't want to look at things from a clearer point of view, we hate and
detest the paradigm shift.
But that we cannot avoid, it will happen, even as we contuine to
support our cherished ideas about the raptors, the true fossils sit in
the musuem and scream out for somebody to take another look at them, a
closer look.
And like T.Rex, our old ideas about the raptors will be forcefully,
painfully changed, just like the changes, Newton, Einstein and Lorenz
have bestowed upond us. The paradigm will shift.
It's almost paradigm and our old ideas about the raptors will not
matter, for everything looks different, on the other
side.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 8, 2001
Well, I'm not sure if many people here
follow popular ideas, they seem to have very accucrate and realistic
view about the raptors and Tyrannosaurus, if you ask
me.
from Josh,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 7, 2001
Well, BBD, Bakker's ideas about
Megalosaurus are classed under "minority ideas". That means a theory
that not too many paleontologists see as likely to be correct. The
problem is that the public is too "Bakker" friendly. They take almost
everything he says seriously, true or not.
Giganotosaurus probally weight about 6-7 tons. I find estimates for
8-9 tons a little excessive considering the fact that that animal was
only marginally bigger than "Sue", the till-now biggest T.Rex. I
noticed there was a little "must override T.Rex" fever by the South
Americans when Giganotosaurus was discovered, as if they wanted so
desperately to get the better of Tyrannosaurus. It's no surprise if
they had "blown up" certain facts to make Giganotosaurus look more
impressive, but I find the idea that it being just a mere 4 feet
longer and having a lighter skull but weighing a third more than T.Rex
hard to believe. Giganotosaurus was probally lighter than we thought,
just like T.Rex, whose weight estimates have fallen from 15 tons to 6
tons in the years.
from Josh,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 7, 2001
Well thats great you think for yourself
and dont follow the popular idea like most people on this forum do.
Josh, I see why you disagree about megalosaurus, but is it your
opinion or something put forth by other paleontologists? If it is,
then where is it?
from bbd,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 7, 2001
MAY I ASK FOR SOME INFORMATION ABOUT
Tyrannosaurus Rex.
from Jon,
age 11,
hanover,
PA,
?;
November 17, 2000
How did extinction for a reason end? Did
the Rex drive the raptors to extinction?
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 14, 2000
Well, I'll be posting another Dino Warz
pusedo-bio as a follow up to Honkie's terrific job. It tells you even
more.
Anyway, many people has assumed that Sue is Sue at the field musuem.
This is not true, the Dino Warz Sue is not the other Sue, but rather,
she was named after it. I needed to add this clarification as the
other "Sue" might be male.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
January 7, 2001
How heavy was
Giganotosaurus?
from Monica,
age ?,
OK,
?,
USA;
January 7, 2001
Well, I can't blame you, about a year or
two ago, it was the common perception of the public that Tyrannosaurus
was a full time scavenger and yes, the now-dead myth of
T.Rex-cannot-see-me-if-I-freeze was still alive and kicking then. How
much have our preceptions of T.Rex changed! From 2000 till now, I have
read so many in-dept sutdies on T.Rex that has slowly changed him from
the slow-moving, solitary, weak-toothed scavenger to the deadilest,
social but antisocial, pair bonding, group-hunting, keenly nosed and
eyed and super-jawed swift predator/scavenger. Yes, the new T.Rex is
certainly different.
from Josh,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 7, 2001
Hmm, you must have seen "Beyond T.Rex"
have you? Well, for once, I tend to have serious doubts about Bakker's
claims, and thus, have pulled myself away from the common
Bakker-friendly, dinosaur enamoured public and hirled myself into the
unfamilar world of critical, thinking paleontologists. Alright, such
poetics aside. Well, for once, I do have serious doubts about the
validity of Bakker's claims for Megalosaurus being gigantomus. Call me
a skeptic, but I prefer to see at least a 50 percent complete fossil
before making any claims. For once, I am critical of Bakker in
"predicting" the maximum size of Megalosaurus.
But anyway, Horner (Somebody who I tend to disagree with a lot
regarding Tyrannosaurus) has found 5 new Extra-Large fossils of
Tyrannosaurus Rex Osborn that smash Bakker's yet-validated predictions
of the Megalosaurus elusive super-size not to mention the
yet-excaveted South-American supercarnivore. Well..so much for "Beyond
T.Rex"...I though it was a cool show anyway.
from Josh,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 7, 2001
Hmm, I suppose so, but the quick thinking
Hardosaurs would certainly outwit him had he been in the cretacious,
Yup, T.Rex was certainly the baddest in the cretacious.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 7, 2001
We all know Megalosaurus was the king
predator. Hes the biggest, therefore one on one, the
baddest.
from BBD,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 6, 2001
Josh, I realize my story was full of
errors, but, keep in mind, I wrote it a year or two ago when people
thought raptors were the king predators.
from Carchardontosaur,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 6, 2001
These are writing tips for those who want
to write a good dino show us like story.
Story: The writing has to be very strong so the reader almost feels
like it's realy hapening.
Education: It has to have a small leson at the end. (bad things come
to ends, friends vs. fans, respect each other's religion, etc.)
Including people: Have real people in the story (Honkie Tong,
Chandler, Billy Macdraw, etc.) so some readers are part of it.
Comidy: Dino-show-us has lots of humour in it. Alot of it includes
dino science in it, so unless your an expert, do your reserch before
writing.
Script: The stories are in the script format. You may be confused by
it at first, but if your used to Dino Warz, Special, and Dino-show-us,
it'll be very easy.
All of these elements combinded make Dino-show-us.
from Reuben B.,
age 7,
Needham,
MA,
USA;
January 6, 2001
The new Dino-show-us 5 is out now. If you
want to know who X. is, use clues in the writing. I hope you like
it.
from Reuben B.,
age 7,
Needham,
MA,
USA;
January 6, 2001
Another thing, don't you think its strange
that people assume that Dilophosaurus had a poisionous bite. Some even
go as far to suggest that it could spit poision. Well, I know that
reptile spit has alot of nasty chemicals in it, but I don't see any
evidence to suggest that Dilophosaurus was poisionous at all, let
alone spit. Prehaps you could put this right JC, just like you have
done to the T.Rex was not necessay green.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 5, 2001
OLD BLOOD IS OUT, READ IT NOW!
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
January 5, 2001
For most of recorded history humans have
viewed our world as having been placed here for our benefit and use.
We are finally beginning to understand that this planet has been home
to millions of other species over hundreds of millions of years. Each
of them evolved to take the maximum possible advantage of the
ecological niche available to it. Dinosaurs dominated this
terrestrial frame more successfully and longer than any other group of
animals since the first vertebrates crawled onto the land. How did
they do it? The basic theme that runs through all of my writing is
that they were not dragons or other fantastical monsters. They had to
accomplish their domination under the same rules of physiology and
evolution common to all organisms. A lot of what passes for Dinosaur
Science in the popular press today ignores this basic truth, which
seems to occur out of enthusiasm for such an exciting subject rather
than any deliberate attempt to mislead. In my education in both Zoology and Medicine I have learned a lot
about anatomy and physiology as they apply to a functional organism.
Personally, I find it exciting to figure out how Dinosaurs became
such amazing animals and how they solved the problems of survival with
what is basically the same protoplasm that Life on Earth has used for
more than a billion years and is still using today. This is really a
lot more interesting than just thinking of them as figments of our
imagination. If you want fantasy, go dream about dragons and
pack-hunting, hot blooded, superdeadily raptors.
from Jon F,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 5, 2001
I'm working on the next Old Blood. Watch
for it. Old Blood is nearing an end soon. The new Dino Warz is
next.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
January 3, 2001
I believe your "talking to a wall"
statement works both ways.
from Joseph,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 3, 2001
I've just read EIFAR and I must say it's
quite good, but I do have a few questions though:
How did the raptors kick through to the olfactory nerve of the Rex?
They would be kicking the skull and the only way through is via the
nostrils. Also, in life, the olfactory nerves should be a foot in and
close to the brain. How did a three nich deep gash disable it?
And even if the female rex was smell-impaired, how did she die? Didn't
the super-keen hearing and eyesight of the Tyrannosaurids take over,
couldn't the female rely on these keen senses to hunt too? Why didn't
her mate keep her alive like what was done to Sue when it suffered a
compound fracture of its ankle and was unable to hunt or scavenge?
Also, a final question. Save for the jaws, the neck is the next most
powerful part of the Tyrannosaur's body, a powerhouse of muscles with
the spinal cord buried deep within the spine and the vital blood
vessels buried under one and a half feet of muscle. So how did Scott
manage to hit the jugular given all the "armour" he had to punch
through?
Well, these are just some of my questions.
from Josh,
age 12,
?,
?,
?;
January 3, 2001
I must mention Josh here, he's incredibly
knowledged for a 12 year old, articulate too. Are you really 12? I'm
impressed.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
January 3, 2001
Really? Thanks. I still hope to improve
though.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
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?;
January 3, 2001
Well, here you have it, my first drawn
picture for a long while. Say JC, the tumbnail could not show oin my
browser, do you know the reason and how to remedy it?
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 3, 2001
I forgot to upload the thumbnail - it works now. Nice picture! JC
Hmm, it's not very common here in
Singapore too. I only managed to find it in a bookstore after
searching for some time. And not to mention it was the second-last
copy. Pity though, it's a good book.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 3, 2001
Well, not exactly a fast trot, he probally
could charge as he had more of the cursorial adaptations of his weight
class. My best guess is, he probally made it up to 50 clicks an hour,
which is very fast for his size. Doing some lateral thinking, it would
have made him capable of capturing just about any animal above 3 tons
in his world. T.Rex wasn't exactly built like an elephant. He was
faster and more aglie. Elephants did not need to avoid horns and chase
food. Anyway, tracks of large meat-eating dinosaurs which are
externally similar to T.Rex shows that they were very agile, sometimes
hopping on one foot after attacking prey. So yes, T.Rex was probally
extremely agile and fast, not for a long distance though. It was
unlikely both of his feet ever left the ground though.
from Josh,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 3, 2001
Jc what is the AOL keyword for this site.
I need to know this A.S.A.P.
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 3, 2001
We don't have an AOL keyword; if someone can tell us how to get one, please let me know (I don't use AOL and know nothing about it). JC
Brad, you've been worring me! When are
you gonna post another Dinosaur story?
I finally finished extinction is for a reason! Check it
out.
from Carchardontosaur,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 3, 2001
"The New T. Rex" isn't on chapters.ca, and
I'm not sure where else to look.
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
January 3, 2001
Well, so I was wrong about the distance
running. T.rex was a fast walker, and thats in fact, true. As far as
"raptor vs. T.rex", theyre equal, but like I said before, the raptor
family was far more deadly than the tyrannosaur family, but telling
the "T.rex fans this is like talking to a wall, your too concentrated
on one dinosaur. As far as T.rex running, he was too heavy, being size
and weight, he probably did a fast walk like elephants, or a
trot.
from BBD,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 3, 2001
Chapter 2 of Raxal vs. Raptor is now out.
Dino-show-us 5 will be out very soon. It will start a new seson of
Dino-show-us. I hope you like both.
from Reuben B.,
age 7,
Needham,
MA,
USA;
January 3, 2001
Hello!Please, can you help me?
The nice girl!
I must do for the school a wallpaper about the
Maiasaura!I would like a lot of things of him.
Do you know something about the Maiasaura?
from A Nice Girl,
age 13,
Near Berlin,
?,
Germany;
January 3, 2001
Yes Josh, I do agree. The concept of
Tyrannosaurus pursuing its prey for long distances inspires
incredulity. Tyrannosaurus rex certainly looks the type for speed, but
I don't think his legs were built for resisting the stress of long
distance running, strong as they might be. Looking at the legs of the
Hardosaurs, they were the legs of a slower animal but they were
certainly built to run far. Which is about the situtation you would
find in an ambush hunter: The hunter is usually faster than the prey,
but is unable to keep up with it for long distances.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 3, 2001
Thanks Honkie, I guess its a bit like the
Daishi, but alot faster and more forgiving.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
January 3, 2001
And as for our cherished Tyrannosaurus
rex. What of him? In my view, Tyrannosaurus clearly does not share
all of the cursorial adaptations of modern mammals. But that's OK.
Tyrannosaurs had more of the aforementioned cursorial adaptations than
any other animal in its size class and , hence, would have been fast
enough. Maybe not as fast as Bakker describes them, but they were
definitely in the race. They were not so adapted for cursorial
pursuit as modern cheetahs, but so what? Their prey, which may have
included such genera as Edmontosaurus and Triceratops, were NOT
gazelles! And if T.rex was an active hunter, it may have been able to
mortally wound most animals with a single shoveling bite, so marathon
runs need not have been a part of its repertoire.
This is not a post regarding any raptor vs T.rex thing, but I'd like
to point out the mistake I think you made when you described T.Rex as
a distance runner.
from Josh,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
Distance running for Tyrannosaurus? I'm
sorry BBD, but I don't buy your theory about T-rex running for
distance after prey. T-rex was certainly very fast for his size, but I
don't think he could keep up his incredible speed for too long.
I envision T-rex as more of an ambush hunter, especially in the
mixed
growth that was its most likely habitat (according to THE COMPLETE
T.
REX). Can't be big and a chase hunter in heavy growth. Doesn't work.
Big generally seems to equate with an ambush hunter
from Josh,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
Thought Sue was the biggest T.Rex? Well,
think again. Latest finds of 5 seperate Tyrannosaurus rex fossils in
the area have been estimated to be 10 percent bigger than Sue. Note
the word here is Tyrannosaurus rex, not Imperator.
So prehps Tyrannosaurus was more Tyrant than we though.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
Levine, you are right. There is no solid
evidence to put the dromaeosaurids in as pack hunters, which destroys
just about their only hope for the place of the deadilest dinosaur, as
deadily pound for pound they might be. To a slow, bipedal ommivore
shuch as me, a dromaeosaurid will certainly seem more deadily to me
than a Tyrannosaurid. But to a 7-ton Anatotitan, it would probally
laugh off a dromaeosaurid as a trival matter, fearing a Tyrannosaurus
instead. It's just a matter of who's deadiler to who. But if you're
talking in terms of firepower, Tyrannosaurus had more firepower packed
into his mouth than 10 adverage dromaeosaurids, not to mention all
this damage will be concentrated in one area.
from Josh,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
Before I draw any flack, my point is,
before you assume that the raptors were deadiler than T.Rex, in terms
of hunting or whatever, you have to have a null theory or statement to
disprove. And I see you haven't been doing a good job of it. I have a
certain adverness of qouting dinosaur experts like Bakker as I'm quite
certain he goes by without using any null too. Besides, if we really
wanted to learn, we have to unlearn. I notice there have been a lot of
new ideas about T.Rex coming up recently, and these are the results of
questioning the almost-widely-accepted-by-the-layman scavenger theory.
Some of the ideas might be wrong, but form experience, I can tell you
almost nothing is constant in paleontology. Never be afraid to try
something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built
the Titanic. Do not be relutant to question the popular theory of the
Dromeosaurids/raptors being the deadilest predator around. Chances
are, its wrong.
from Levine,
age 25,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
Responding to BBD's old post about lions
hunting elepants therefore raptors would have bround down large prey.
He's using the well known
Yikes!!! No! Flag called on account of misue of the Principle of
It is NOT safe to assume that all behaviors found in the modern world
were present in earlier times. Heck, you could then argue
"domestication occurs in the Holocene, therefor Late Cretaceous
coelurosaurs domesticated Late K Asian protot-ungulates".
For complex behaviors, or behaviors currently restricted to a single
clade,you cannot just assume they were present at any earlier time.
If you are proposing unusual (derived or complex) behaviors for some
fossil form, you should back it up with some sort of testable or
supporting evidence (morphological structures which correlate with
that behavoir; phylogenetic bracketing; good old fashioned taphomony
(can't be beat!); etc.).
Principle of Uniformitarianism. This means what is happening now
happened way back when too. Since hunting big prey goes on now, it
seems relatively safe to assume that it occurred back in the Mesozoic
as well.
Uniformitarianism! (That principle is normally used in conjunction
with geologic processes, and not biological ones, anyway).
from Levine,
age 25,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
It sounds like you really like
dromaeosaurids, especially Deinonychus
First of all, it's good to see you've put some thought into this,
but
Let me tell you, from my own experience with sauropod dinosaurs,
that
And of course, these animals, no matter how alive they are in your
So, with that in mind, there are more things to consider. We
cannot
When we come up with a hypothesis in science, we try to phrase so
So, we could start out setting up a hypothesis like this:
Let's look then at the Tenontosaurus situation.
Evidence 1: Deinonychus and Tenontosaurus are both known from the
Evidence 2: There are teeth of Deinonychus present with
Tenontosaurus
Evidence 3: Some specimens of Tenontosaurus appear to have bite
marks
Evidence 4: Tenontosaurus is too big for one dromaeosaurid to
handle.
Well, we could go on like this for a long time, but I hope you see
Science is a tough business, and paleontology is extra hard
because
But this is where you come into the picture. How badly do you
really
Finally, I should add that some of the information above I got
from
(who wouldn't?), and I think you've convinced yourself that pack
behavior in these animals is inevitable. I am a graduate student
now
working on my Ph.D. You've probably been interested in dinosaurs
for
a while (I'm guessing) and I know when I was 17 (I'm 25 now) it
seemed
that a lot of the scientific community were way to conservative
and
hardnosed when it came to interpreting dinosaur behavior.
it's hard to really know what is going on with specimens unless
you
actually see them in three dimensions, or visit certain dinosaur
localities, etc. I'm not suggesting you haven't done this, but my
guess would be that most of your exposure to dinosaur data has been in
museum displays and perhaps you've participated as a volunteer on
dig?
you can look at hundreds of photographs and illustrations and
still
not really understand what is going on with a fossil animal until you
actually hold the thing in your own hands, turn it around, look at
it
from various angles, measure it, etc.
head, are very much dead. We only have a very narrow amount of
information available to us, because these animals first had to
die,
their carcasses had to "survive" scavenging, their remains had to
be
buried fast (and only in certain sediments at that), the remains
have
to fossilized, the remains can become distorted, then they erode
out,
someone has to catch them at the right moment, not all the bones
are
collected, their remains are brought to a collection, they're
prepared, and then finally a paleontologist can begin to really
look
at the bones and describe them!
(although wouldn't it be awesome if we could?) observe living
dinosaurs doing their things. We have to collect extremely
indirect
evidence, and in most cases it is equivocal -- not supporting or
rejecting our hypotheses. But let's examine your hypothesis ...
that we are likely to REJECT it. Once you have an idea you really
like (I know I have a few about dinosaurs myself), it is very easy
to
find evidence to confirm, at least to yourself, that you're right.
But we want to try to get rid of our own personal biases as much as
we
can. Otherwise, we might overlook or subconsciously ignore
contradictory or vague evidence.
Dromaeosaurids did not hunt in packs to bring down big prey like
Tenontosaurus. We would call this your null hypothesis. Then we
set
up a different, or alternative, hypothesis like this:
Dromaeosaurids
did hunt in packs to bring down big prey like Tenontosaurus. In
every
case where the evidence is equivocal or vague, we fall back on the
NULL hypothesis.
Cloverly Formation. Of course, just because two animals are found
in
the same locality doesn't mean that they interacted with each
significantly. We fail to reject our null hypothesis here.
remains at more than 16 sites in the Cloverly. Okay, we have
teeth
associated with this big herbivore. But here are some things to
consider. The teeth may have been shed during an attack, but there
is
no evidence at any of these sites to outright reject the
possibility
that these Dromaeosaurids were just being opportunistic
scavengers.
The teeth could just as easily be shed by scavenging theropods as
well
as actively predating ones. Hmmm ... looks like we can't be sure
again, so we fall back on our null hypothesis again.
in the bones and are also associated with Deinonychus teeth.
Great!
Irrefutable evidence, right! But, wait! Who made the bites? How
do
we know that another dinosaur, or even something like an
alligator,
didn't make the bites? We don't. It's really tough to match up
teeth
marks with dinosaur jaws, because teeth can slip, or not penetrate
in
certain areas, or any other number of problems. And even if we
were
to show that indeed Deinonychus or another dromaeosaurid bit the
Tenontosaurus, it wouldn't tell us whether the bite was made during
an
attack or as a scavenging mark. Too bad, but it looks like we have
to
fall back on our null hypothesis again.
Pack hunting was obviously necessary to bring them down. Well,
okay,
but this assumes that Deinonychus had pack instincts, something we
can't directly observe. Plus, maybe once a Tenontosaurus got big
enough, it was left alone. Maybe if Deinonychus was a pack hunter,
it
attack juvenile Tenontosaurs. And, it turns out, a subadult
Tenontosaurus MOR 682 at the Museum of the Rockies was found in
close
association with 11 shed Deinonychus teeth. The skeleton appears
to
have ripped apart pretty good by some dinosaurs and perhaps this
indicates that many Deinoychus were employing pack tactics to
bring
this smaller guy down. Or, this smaller guy was killed by a
bigger
theropod and then scavenged by Deinonychus. Or, this smaller guy
died
of other causes and was later consumed by Deinonychus. And even
if
these animals didn't have pack behavior, they could be drawn to a
stinking carcass like vultures. So again, our evidence is
equivocal.
We fall back on our null hypothesis yet again.
the point I'm trying to make. As scientists, we are duty-bound to
be
skeptical of every new (or even not so new) claim until we find
evidence that positively supports that claim, or hypothesis. And
remember, every hypothesis and theory in science, in order to be
scientific, has have these four qualities: 1) It has to be
testable;
2) It must be repeatable by other researchers; 3) It must be
falsifiable; and 4) It should have predictive power.
we don't have as much control over the evidence as do some
experimental scientists. Even though it would be awesome if
theropods
hunted in organized packs, dispatching hadrosaurs and sauropods
left
and right with cool, calculated efficiency, we just don't have
enough
positive evidence to say, definitely, yes this is what happened.
want to know and see and touch the real evidence? Maybe there's
something the scientific community is missing, or hasn't
considered,
or hasn't looked at, or who knows? New technology may come along
to
help us address questions we can't even fathom answering or even
asking now. If you want to become a paleontologist, maybe you can
put
your mind toward figuring out just what the behavior of
dromaeosaurid
theropods was like. It will take a lot of math, anatomy,
physiology,
ecology, behavioral studies, geology, and even more determination
and
perserverance. And maybe after all that you will still not know
the
whole story. That's the risk but that's also your chance to
possibly
change the way we currently look at theropod behavior.
the following sources. It's important, where ever possible, to
give
credit to previous researchers, even if you don't agree with their
conclusions. Good luck with your question, and feel free to ask
more.
On this list, we can't always return responses right away (most of
us
our very busy with our research, teaching, and other stuff) but
don't
be discouraged. At the very least, use the library frequently and
always look for evidence that does not confirm your
ideas.
from Levine,
age 25,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
Sorry BBD, no recount. You
lost.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
Hey Bill, were are you? Oh yes, I figured
out the Mad Cat thing. THe reason they called it the Mad Cat was
because it looked like a cross between a Madrauder and a Catapult. The
clans refer to it as the Timber Wolf though, very lethal design, strap
some PPCS and ERs on it and it'll be virtually unstoppable by anything
under its weight. Heat will be an issue though, and remember, the Mad
Cat cannot jump, so be aware of that and avoid boggy
situtations.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
Here I go again:
Every time I see something that says that dromeosaurs "best" suited
for hunting I can't help but question what this is based on. Is it
mostly assumption. Is it that they are seemingly "better suited for
speed",Or the arsenal of claws that it unleashed on its prey with in
such a fury. why is it considered so much more efficient than a
tyrannosaur (especially T.Rex). And what hard evidence is this based
upon. I think it possible that a Tyrannosaur may have have been more
efficient (or at least equal) in its pursuing and killing ability than
a dromeosaur.
from FD,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
How cute BBD, but your statements don't
carry any weight. Try harder to hurt our feelings.
from Joseph,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
Don't answer him Honkie, you're too good
for him. He's not worthly of your time. I think Zoom DInosaurs have
wasted enough on him. BBD, you might suddenly find yourself with
losses but no targets.
from Grace T.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
I agree Honkie, for the sake of stability,
I will not answer BBD, secure in the knowledge I have already
won.
from Lillian T.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
Break on bone? I donno, but Triceratops
bones have been found with teeth holes on them, not marks, but holes.
I suppose T.Rex could have left fragments of teeth behind, but that
would have hardly impeded it's preformance, not to mention it could
keep replacing its teeth . Pound for pound, the raptors are deadilest.
But being deadilest pound for pound hardly makes you the deadilest. If
I were to go for the deadilest predator by pound for pound, I would go
for the mongoose instead of the lion, the monitor lizard instead of
the Crocidile. But we know for a fact that technically speaking, more
people die every year from the lions and crocs instaed of mongoose and
monitor lizard. We do admit that the raptors were probally deadiler
pound for pound, but I hardly think that would have made them
literally deadiler than T.Rex. Talking in terms of damage potential
and time efficency, T.Rex probally exceeded any other animal in the
mezonic world for killing prey. Note I refuse to pit one animal against another in a deathmatch as
it was the exact thing they would not have done. I prefer to look at
which was the deadiler predator. Anyway, could you cut down on the
insults? We don't want another "Great War" over here. You don't know
them and they don't know you, so I don't think any insults will be
really accucrate anyway. By the way, could we talk about something
else? I'm real sick of this vicious circle and do have a life you
know.
from Josh,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
Yawn...go on BBD, nobody wants to start
this all over again. You can rant and rave all you want, but I'm not
going to answer you or your challanges/insults because of the simple
fact we have already won.
Say Brad, could you find that book "The New T.Rex" by Duncan Watt?
It's a good book for the new year. (I got it for
Christmas)
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
BBD, there is just one problem with your
statement: T-rex's teeth were not knife-like. I agree that raptors
were certainly more deadly than T-rex.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
You know...I have looked my facts over, my
logic and my "lies" and YES I am right. Pound for Pound the raptor was
deadlier than any Tyrannosaur, not to mention the quick, speedy,
bouncy Tyrannos had slim knife like teeth that would break on bone and
the only weapon they had was distance running and heads. Little bigger
than a raptors head in head to body comparison. DW, honkie Tong, Ive
been gone this long and your still making fun of me while Im gone.
Thats just ridiculous. Really its funny. Too worried about me. You do
need to get a life, sitting at your computers, hidded in dark rooms
making bullying people, over a simple discussion board. Good GOD. Not
to mention, when things start getting hot for you, you "make up" your
own characters(Like Sue Hendrickson and Rober Bakker, HAHAHA) to make
a group against me. Now I have more than once discussed without one
matter of harassment, and you singapore kids seem to not be able to do
that. SOmethings wr!
ong. I got it, you guys are bitter and angry and take out your
aggression here. Shame it is. I notice the only points you confirm are
the ones in Popular and recent AMerican Media, that shows you cant
think for yourself. Not paleontological material at
all.
from BBD,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
Did you know that the Megaraptor was found
in Argentina by dr. Fernando Novas. Unlike most dinosaurs the
megaraptor was one of the smartest dinosaurs ever!The south american
name for Megaraptor is M.namunhuaiquii. By the way Happy New
Year!!!!!!
from nicoleb,
age 8,
georgetown,
ontario,
canada;
January 2, 2001
What war? You really got issues son. No
need to get bent out of shape cuz my facts blow your opinion out of
the water.HA.
from BBD,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2001
One more thing, welcome back Brad. We're
now currently at peace, BBD's long gone. The Great War is
over.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 1, 2001
Thread is fine, as long as it dosen't make
navigating the page a nightmare. How bout putting the same format as
now, but every message has a tag to show which post its responding
to?
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
January 1, 2001
That's a good idea. How does everyone else feel about it? JC
I got some great new dinosaur books for
Christmas. I'll give mini-book reviews here:
_The Illustrated Directory of Dinosaurs and other Prehistoric
Creatures_
_The Simon & Schuster Encyclopedia of Dinosaurs & Prehistoric
Creatures_
continued...
Edited by Ingrid Cranfield
Salamander Books, 2000; 360 pages
This is a small, compact paperback book with lots of great colourful
pictures. Unfortunately, you've probably already seen most of them.
The dinosaur section is rather unexciting, not containing much new
information. It could have been written 15 years ago, and probably
was. However, the pterosaur section that follows is amazing! There
are tons of pterosaurs I've never heard of, with colourful paintings
and detailed black and white pictures of their heads. There are a lot
of facts on a page. TIDODAOPC turns out to be the best pterosaur book
around-- I highly reccommend it for the pterosaurs alone.
Barry Cox, R.J.G. Savage, Brian Gardiner and Colin Harrison
Revised and Updated by Douglas Palmer
Marshall Editions Developments Limited, 1999; 312 pages
Again, the dinosaur section doesn't impress me. Protarchaeopteryx and
Sinosauropteryx have been added, although they are poorly drawn
compared to the rest of the illustrations (which are very good). The
rest of the content seems unchanged from the 1988 edition--some
invalid names remain, and Teratosaurus, Proceratosaurus and
Dilophosaurus are the first three 'carnosaurs' listed! Yet again, the
dinosaurs in aging popular books just don't interest me anymore.
Luckily this is an encyclopedia of Dinosaurs and Prehistoric Creatures
(as if dinosaurs weren't), and there are plenty of other animals that
I'm learning about for the first time. There are some really cool
early tetrapods (including the amphibian armadillo, _Peltobatrachus_)
and many great mammals. If you don't like prehistoric mammals, you
probably haven't read this book. They are so cool! And there are so
many of them! Hours of fun! Your family might hate dinosaurs, but
they should enjoy looking at the prehistori!
c mammals with you. Another highly reccommended book.
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
January 1, 2001
I like the idea of having each thread on a
different page. Sometimes we need to reply to specific messages. I
don't find that format to take long to read at all.
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
January 1, 2001
I'll have a technical person look into implementing it. JC
Hey people, did you know an F-14 squardron
called the "Raptors" are redefining their name to refer to a bird of
prey, not the dinosaur as it was before as new research shows that the
raptors were not as deadily as previously thought. So much for
raptor-mania...
from Honky Tong,
age 12,
?,
?,
?;
January 1, 2001
Brad! You're back! Amazingly enough, I
have Swoop!
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 1, 2001
A fuzzy Pteranodon named Swoop is one of
the newest dinosaur-like products of 2001.
http://www.ty.com/announcements/buddies5.html
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
January 1, 2001
Well, it looks like everybody is finally
in, happy new year, century and millennium everyone! You only get this
thing once every thousand years, so I thought it should recieve
mention here.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
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January 1, 2001
Hello people! Welcome to the new
Millennium! Sorry I wasn't on very much last night.
from firebird,
age ?,
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?;
January 1, 2001
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