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Looks like a new dinosaur construction toy. Want to all buy some,
and have challenges to create the best representation of a
particular species? The parts should work with normal LEGO too.
These look really fun!
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 15, 2001
I only like the first and second
illustrated books by James Gurney. The little novel things aren't
very interesting, and the third illustrated book featured no
dinosaurs.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 15, 2001
Honkie Tong, could you write Dino
Warz?
from Reuben B.,
age 8,
Needham,
MA,
USA;
March 15, 2001
Brad, you read Dinotopia? Cool.
Anyway, it is:
Dino News
March 15th
Into
Events
News
Dino Talk
Science forum
Stories
Bye!
This is the first issue of the Dino News newsletter. It will tell
you about dinosaur finds, events, Dino Talk, Dino Favorites, Dino
Fiction, and the Science Forum.
The Museum of Science has a new exibit in congunction with the
discovery channel show, Land of the Mammoth. It uncovers fossil
digging, discoveries in the yard, and the Jarkov Mammoth. Other
news there is they are continueing work on the new T.Rex and
T.Rex: Back to the Cretatious is airing with the progect.
There has not been any news I have heard of.
Lately, there have been 3 main topics: Hoax or Not?, Bible and
Dinosaurs, and Dino Coulars. The first is if there is proof of
dinosaurs existance, the second is how you can belive in the Torah
and dinosaurs at the same time, and the third is about how people
patray dinosaurs in diferent coulars.
Nothing is going on there! Just like when firebird and Honkie were
gone, at the science forum I am fealing lonely.
Because Macdraw's computer crashed, I wrote a story where I take
over for Dino Warz host. It has new spinoffs for Dino Warz and
Dino-show-us.
from Reuben B.,
age 8,
Needham,
MA,
USA;
March 15, 2001
What ever happened to the science
forum? Is it coming back, or is this my worst nightmare. I could
bring it back to life, but no one will respond. Please
respond.
from Reuben B.,
age 8,
Needham,
MA,
USA;
March 14, 2001
It's _Saurolophus angustirostris_.
Differs from S. osborni in having a narrower skull and probably a
longer crest, shorter exerior nasal openings, shorter and probably
deeper lacrimal, anterior portion of the jugal elongating into a
long process wedging between maxillia and lacrimal (S. osborni has
a short, blunt process on the jugal) (Glut 1997)
That's probably enough to make it a seperate genus, and I wouldn't
be surprised if somebody did that soon. I'd rather not. Read
_Dinosaur Lives_ (Horner and Dobb, 1997) and you'll probably be
convinced that the species/genus/family/order/class system only
works with modern animals and is not suitable for the study of
dinosaurs. Current cladistics isn't good enough because the
genus/species named continue to be applied. I don't think there
are any dinosaurs closer to S. angustirostris than S. osborni, so
we really don't need a taxon for animals closer to S.
angustirostris than s. osboni- that taxon is already called
Saurolophus. You would need evidence that Asian species only
resembles the North American one due to convergent evolution to
propose a new 'genus', but I don't think that has been suggested.
Cladistics is classification based on evolution, but not with the
genera and species left unaltered. Pachyrhinosaurus canadensis
should be classified as
Ceratopsia*
Einiosaurus and Achelosaurus, which are presumed to be direct
ancestors of Pachyrhinosaurus, are listed as higher taxa that
include it. Also, since Einiosaurus and Achelosaurus only have
one 'species', Einiosaurus and Einiosaurus procurvicornis mean the
same thing.
At the time it lived, Achelousaurus would have been a valid genus.
But looking back on its evolutionary relationships with later
centrosaurines, excluding Pachyrhinosaurus from Achelousaurus is a
ridiculous as excluding Aves from Reptilia. (yes, lots of people
want to do tht too)
Genera on their own are kind of useless, and no more worthy of
discussion than any other group. Books the group dinosaurs
alphabetically by genus are extremely convenient, but wrong.
Everyone probably knows that if two animals can produce healthy
offspring, they belong to the same species. But when genus is
defined as "a group of closely related species", you have to ask-
"Where does one genus end and another begin????" That's why I
want to have some genera included witihn others, but I don't think
that's goign to catch on in the near future.
*We can debate the s in Ceratopsia, but I say it went unnoticed
too long to be changed, and should be left as it is. Plus,
Ceratopia just sounds like a region of Dinotopia.
:)
Neoceratopsia
Ceratosidae
Cerntrosaurinae
Pachyrhinosaurini
Einiosaurus procurvicornis
Achelousaurus horneri
Pachyrhinosaurus
Pachyrhinosaurus canadensis
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 14, 2001
I'm sorry I have been gone for so
long. I've just been very busy between school and sports and tons
of other things.
No one knows why dinosaurs died out. I sort of used to have my
own theory, but it isn't very likely and doesn't explain why other
creatures, not just dinosaurs, died out :( I just can't get over
how some kinds of larger animals (namely crocodiles) didn't die
out. Like people have been saying, science doesn't explain
everything.
I recently came across to someone's posting that said that the
species of Saurolophus known from Mongolia ( I forget the species
name, but it starts with an Aug ) should be considered a genus of
it's own. Do you agree with this????????????
from russell p,
age ?,
seattle,
wa,
usa;
March 13, 2001
Oh, Ok. I see what you
mean.
from DW
hasbeenusingacoolintellimouseforalongtime,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 13, 2001
Honkie is using a cool
intellimouse!
from Honkie Tong is using a cool
intellimouse,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 13, 2001
Actually, I think there are alot of
other appraches to life besides science...how about something know
as "Pratical Ethics?" Science gives you the power, but it doesn't
tell you what to do with it. Just because we can do it doesn't
mean it's right!
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 13, 2001
Personally, I prefer the absence of
morons. But if their absence leads to ,well, philosophical
debates(which have little grounding in reality(which is
subjective(AHHH! NOW I'M PHILOSOPHICAL!)) then bring them
back!
from DW,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 12, 2001
What other ways are there to approach
a subject if Science is not necesarrily the best
one?
from DW,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 12, 2001
Well, I'm not saying dinosaurs do NOT
exist, but I'm simply saying we can never be sure, no matter how
much evidence we have. It is true, if you look back through the
viewing glasses of uncertainy theory, all sicence is actually
based on a series of assumptions. Not that is unacceptable, but
people who think that approaching everything scientificlly is
superior and more accucrate than other ways are seriously mistaken
indeed.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 12, 2001
Okay, well, I tried attaching
it...hopefully it will work. If it doesn't, we have conclusive
proof that attachments hate me.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 12, 2001
Attachments don't like me, I can't
ever get them to work. Should I upload it and then give you the
URL of the image (like I did with my other
pictures)?
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 12, 2001
Chandler, I got it and it's online. JC
I just sent in my painting of a flying
Pteranodon sternbergi to the pictures section (I hope the file
size wasn't too big...but it's smaller than some of the other
stuff on there).
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 12, 2001
Chandler - I got your e-mail with the picture but the picture didn't work - I only got the message "[Unable to display image]". You might want to try it as an attachment. JC
There is a point where it becomes
ridiculous to reject amassing suggestion of proof, however, just
because it isn't absolutely conclusive. You have to guess
sometimes, and assume things, or science wouldn't go anywhere and
new theories would never advance.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 12, 2001
How dinosaurs died is still a mystery,
and has probably been discussed to death on this board while I
wasn't here (sometime). The main public consensus is that it was
a comet impact followed by nuclear winter, but who knows? And as
for where dinosaurs came from...hmmm, you'd better not ask any of
us that right now, as you might get some kind of wishy-washy
philosophical answer:) I'd guess you say they evolved from early
ornithodirans like Marasuchus and Lagosuchus, which were kind of
like half rabbit half crocodylians.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 12, 2001
Yeah, daily news would be stretching
it, and would only last so long. Monthly would be good, since
usually once a month we get a new dinosaur named/described or
uncovered.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 12, 2001
Is there any fanfiction about the
Dinoverse books series?
from Kar,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
March 12, 2001
how did dinos die . wher did they come
from.
from TiffanyJ,
age 17,
leisp,
Ohio,
usa;
March 12, 2001
Last night, me and my friends Danniel
and Pamala got together and stayed up late watching the vidio of
Raising the Mamoth and the Discovery Channel world primere of Land
of the Mamoth. It was fun. We came up with several theories
watching, like how they went extinct and how Neanderthals would
use the mammoth bone huts. Next we will see Neanderthal, a
documentary about how Neanderthals lived and competed with Homo
Sapians. Then we will go to the Museum of Science and see The
exibit in congunction with Land of the Mammoth and T.Rex: Back to
the Cretatious. Then we will see Allosaurus: a Walking with
Dinosaurs special. Prehistoric? We will see it!
from Reuben B.,
age 7,
Needham,
MA,
USA;
March 12, 2001
I must say, this board is pretty
sedate after a serious lack of serious morons coming in to disturb
the peace.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 11, 2001
I can't really imagine daily dino
news. There hasn't really been any new developments in
dinosaurology for over a month.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 11, 2001
Actually Giganotosaurus was bigger and
heavier than any known T. rex specimen, but T. rex was probably
more "powerful."
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 11, 2001
DW, we've been having a philosophical
era on the board lately. Please excuse us:)
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 11, 2001
I'm afraid there is no such thing as
undeniable prove. Along with the imposibility of observablilty,
the imposibility of provability is one of the largest discoveries
of twentieth century science. Though strong evidence exists for
dinosaurs not being hoaxes, there is no undeniable evidence. In
fact, nothing is undeniable. Nothing, absolutely nothing, can be
absolutely proved. If there's one thing we can be absolute about
(and I'm nto sure we can), is that we cannot absolutely prove
anything outside this statement. It's actually more science than
philosophy, it's simple uncertatinty theory. Having studied some
choas theory, I do know we cannot prove anything absolutely at
all.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 11, 2001
oh puh-lease we have plenty of
evidence. First we have their bones, second footprints. Isn't that
enough?
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 10, 2001
i think the triceratops is the best
dinosaur ever.
from hannah.w,
age 6,
nuneaton,
?,
england;
March 10, 2001
GIGANOTOSARUS IS NEITHER BIGGER NOR
SMALLER THAN T-REX,THEY WERE BOTH THE SAME SIZE
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 10, 2001
THT'S BECUSE LYSTROSAURUS LIVED IN THE
LATEST TIME OF THE PERMIAN. IT LIVED AT ORNITHOSUCHUS'S TIME AND
WAS I RIGHT ABOUT LYSTROSAURUS DEFENSES BRAD?
from DONOVAN R.,
age 10,
?,
SINGAPORE,
?;
March 10, 2001
Oh and JP3 is coming out THIS SUMMER!
YAY!
from DW,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 10, 2001
"Am I a person who woke up from
dreaming of being a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming that of
being a person?" Why are you people going into philosophy
now?
from DW,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 10, 2001
If we take dinosaurs as "hoaxes" then
we have to take life itself as a hoax...there is undeniable proof
of both but both as well could just be an illusion. Blah, blah,
ick, it's confusing thinking about this!
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 9, 2001
Well...in a perverse way, Mitch is
right...it's scientifically anknowledged that provability is
impossible. Heck, I can't even prove that I exist, and heck, can't
even prove that we are real to Mitch and not some super
well-program response netbots. On dinosaurs, well, there is no way
to absolutely prove that they are not all hoaxes, but then again,
a wise man proportions his opinion to the knowledge. True, some
dinosaurs have turned out to be hoaxes, but to say the whole thing
was it's simply amazing (If you are trying to be rational that
is)! Hmm...do I smell a creationist here?
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 9, 2001
I must disagree with you Mitch, as
millions of fossilized bones and footprints are suitable proof of
dinosaurs' existence.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 9, 2001
Mitch, I don't know where to start
with you. You have been seriously misinformed.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 9, 2001
wel i think that dinosaurs are a hoax
because there is no real proof that dinos are real.
from mitch s,
age 13,
trenton,
ga,
u s;
March 9, 2001
No single complex animal species has
ever dominated the entire globe the way we have, so no, no other
animal has ever filled our "niche" before, because ours is
entirely unquie.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 8, 2001
Well, "person" isn't a niche, so it's
a non-issue for dinosaurian equivalents. I would say a
dinosaurian equivalent of a person is non-existent because no
dinosaur altered the world like we have. But before we became the
"people" we are today, I would say that maybe Troodon would be
right...I don't know. And most dinosaurs have tails, except
birds, and some oviraptorids had pygostyles. It has been
theorized that Avimimus was tailless, and I'm not sure if this has
been proven wrong yet or not but I'm almost postive Avimimus did
have a tail.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 8, 2001
did all of the dinosaurs have
tails?
from Katey,
age 8,
Phillipsburg,
Pa,
?;
March 8, 2001
To say that humans appeared 3 mya
isn't telling the whole story. Homonidae can be traced to
4,400,000 years ago. Homo (species H. rudolfensis) extends back
2,400,000 years. Last common ancestor of H. sapiens and H.
neanfertalensis occurs 800,000 years ago. Homo sapiens appeared
100,000 years ago. When we became 'people', I'm not sure. I
think it is just a matter of opinion.
But as for exactly why people didn'e evolve earlier when the
dinosaurs were around, that's harder to answer. The abscence of
large mammals in the Mesozoic is often explained by saying that
dinosaurs already occipied all of the large animal roles, and
mammals couldn't copete with them. But what was the dinosaur
equivalent of a person? (A troodon?) People evolved in a grassland
environment, which you wouldn't find anything like in the
Mesozoic. So maybe that's the answer.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 8, 2001
Whats Up
from Sarah,
age 8,
Al,
Albama,
U.S.A.;
March 8, 2001
Hey Kelsey, People didnt live at the
same time as dinosaurs because they didnt evolve until 3 million
years ago.
from anthony,
age 14,
?,
?,
USA;
March 7, 2001
Ruben, Hi, I wanted to say hello. I
used to live in Needham on Great Plain Avenue! This is a cool site
huh?
from Sara B.,
age ?,
Chicago,
IL,
USA;
March 7, 2001
Why didn't people live when Dinosaurs
lived?
from Kelsey,
age 7,
Fairbanks,
AK,
United States;
March 7, 2001
This is an ok site
from zaimechel,
age 1293,
karam,
moscow,
russia;
March 7, 2001
Here it is! Here is my opinions on
various dinosaurs' colors:
Plateosaurus:brown, black stripes on sides and tail
Whew! that took me a while to get all organized. I've gotta go.
Bye
Brachiosaurus:tan with pale blue stripes on tail & sides
Apatosaurus:olive green with sky-blue underside
Saltasaurus:dark grey, moderately light green armour and tip of
tail bright purple
Oviraptor:black with red-orange stripes
Ornithomimus:coloration like a penguin
Allosaurus:thick white stripes on back, everything else forest
green
Velociraptor:dark blue, patches of white on head
Coelophysis:mixed patches of sky blue and orange-brown
Dilophosaurus:red crests, yellow head, dark green body
Tyrannosaurus:light orange
Stegosaurus:red tail spikes, olive to forest green body, pinkish
plates
Polacanthus:HOT PINK! (just kidding) black spikes, green body,
yellow armour
Pinacosaurus: Dark brown to black armour, tan body
Microceratops:pale blue frill, dark tan body
Pachyrhinosaurus:moderately dark green body/head, yellow nasal
boss, horns tan near base but mostly red
Triceratops:all black except for patches of bright orange-red on
frill
Pachycephalosaurus:light pink dome, light olive body/tail, fringes
of purple around dome and on nose spikes
Orodromeus:grey except (males only) a line of red along the
back
Iguanodon:same as WWD "European Iguanodon"
Muttaburrasaurus:light olive, purple "nose bump"
Edmontosaurus:tan or light green
Parasaurolophus:red-orange crest, green body, tail mostly dark
yellow
from russell p.,
age ?,
seattle,
wa,
usa;
March 6, 2001
Ooh, is that all? I knew about that.
That doesn't mean that they were pink, it just means they could
have blushed as you said:) hehe. Anyways, I thought it was like
the Dunkleosteus pigmentation thing, where they found actual
pigments in the armor and could tell which color it was
(red).
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 6, 2001
Brad, I first learned about Placereas
from WWD to!
from Reuben B.,
age 8,
Needham,
MA,
USA;
March 6, 2001
The address for the best list is:
/subjects/dinosaurs/favorite/favorites20.shtml
It used to have almost every dinosaur I knew on it and now only
Anchisaurus smelts and some dinosaurs beginning with Z.
Please respond.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 6, 2001
It looks fine from here (I tried both Netscape and Internet Explorer). Does anyone else have problems accessing that page? Also, I haven't changed that page lately. JC
Evidence for pink ankylosaurs- see
Carpenter in Farlow and Brett-Surman 1997.
Basically, the rich supply of blood in the armour would allow them
to blush, giving their armour a pink tint.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 6, 2001
I found a lot of diversity in
Coelophysis colour schemes-
_The Simon & Schuster Enyclopedia of Dinosaurs & Prehistoric
Creatures_ (1988) Coelophysis is light brown with wide dark brown
stripes. Picture by Steve Kirk.
_The Time-Life Guides: Dinosaurs_ (2000) Coelophysis is mostly
light orange. It has a white belly, and a thick purple line down
the neck, back, and tail. The line branches into thin purple
stripes on the sides, tail, and legs. There are purple spots on
the neck. Picture by Mark Iley.
_The Illustrated Directory of Dinosaurs and Other Prehistoric
Creatures_ (2000) Coelophysis is light tan with an irregular
purple pattern on the top half of the body. There is an olive
green irregular pattern inside the top half of the purple pattern.
Pictured uncredited, but I think its by Sibbick.
_The Scientific American Book of Dinosaurs_ (2000) Coelophysis is
dark yellow/light brown. The head and the top of the neck are
red, and the bottom of the neck is white. Picture by Doug
Henderson.
_Dougal Dixon's Dinosaurs_; _Dougal Dixon's Dinosaurs Updated_;
Dougal Dixon's amazing Dinosaurs_ (1993, ?1998, 2000) Coelophysis
is pale yellow with wide green stripes. Picture by Steve Kirk?
_DINOSAUR!_ (1991)One Coelophysis has a white body with blue along
the top of the head and back, and yellow stripes over the blue.
Picture by John Sibbick. Another, by Brian Franczak, is olive
green with a white underside. It appears feathered.
_In the Presence of Dinosaurs_ (2000) Coelophysis is light grey on
the bottom, dark grey on the top. The nose is yellow on one
individual. Low crests on the snout are red. These Coelophyses
(and most other dinosaurs in this book) are hairy. Picture by
Larry Felder.
_Walking With Dinosaurs: A Natural History_ (1999) Very light
sandy colour with irregular olive spots, striped feet, and red
stripes around the head. I think these are pictures of real
Coelophyses.
_The Riddle of the Dinosaur_ (1985) Coelophysis is solid-coloured,
very light grey-green (maybe a bit of blue too), except for its
red face. Picture by Doug Henderson.
_Dinosaur Imagery_ (2000) Michael Strepenick's Coelophysis is blue
with brown stripes. Gary Stab's is grey-blue, with wrinkled
skin.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 6, 2001
I wasn't aware that Placerias or
Lystrosaurus have been found in the Permian. Am I the only one
who had never heard of Placerias before seeing WWD? Is it a newly
discovered genus? Lystrosaurus is in a lot of books, and I don't
recall any saying that it was Permian.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 6, 2001
I just like to say that this is a cool
web sit!! :) :)
from Brooke M.,
age 15,
commerce,
texas,
usa;
March 6, 2001
I was looking at the favorite archives
and now the best list is to short! Please make it long again!
Please respond.
from Reuben B.,
age 8,
Needham,
MA,
USA;
March 6, 2001
I'm not sure what you mean by the "best list." Let me know the URL. JC
Hmm...I wonder...I don't think it's
very likely for the Dromies to be eusocial, and I think in that
case, they don't really deserve the fearsome reputation they have
been given by many experts. Risking serious injury attacking prey
that outmasses you by 30 times is not really good for passing on
your genes...prehaps that's the reason the bigger dromies went
extinct? They bit off more than they could chew?
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 5, 2001
Just because something lived in 2
periods doesn't mean that one of them is "negated" or something.
And I thought that the color topic is interesting...ever notice
how everyone always (at least in all of my books except for Greg
Paul's) colors Coelophysis brown with strange swirly spot things?
It's like that in all the older books I've seen. Also, T. rex is
almost always colored like in Jurassic Park, but I'll admit that
they did a good job coloring the JP Tyrannosaur.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 5, 2001
I liked the little entry on colors -
I'll post some of my opinions soon.
from russell p,
age ?,
seattle,
wa,
usa;
March 5, 2001
LYSTROSAURUS MUST HAVE USED HIS TUSKS
FOR FIGHTING AND SHOW OFF TO THE FEMALES OR FIGHT RIVAL MALES
BECAUSE HE WAS SO SLOW. UH BRAD,LYSTROSAURUS AND PLACERIAS WEREN'T
EXACTLY FROM THE TRIASSIC(ALTHOUGH THEY WERE) THEY WERE FROM THE
PERMIAN THEN SURVIVED MASS EXTINCTION THEN TO THE
TRIASSIC
from DONOVAN R.,
age 10,
?,
SINGAPORE,
?;
March 5, 2001
Hmm, Brad, you were joking about the
pink Ankylosaurus, right?? If not, what scientific evidence
(hopes Brad is joking)? hehe.:)
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 5, 2001
I'm actually writing an essay on
dinosaur misconceptions and how they've changed since the 1800s.
The biggest one (nowadays) is the size issue. Most people think
that all dinosaurs (except "raptors") were hundreds of tons, and
don't know that the average dinosaur was pony-sized! The longest
lasting misconception is the cold-blooded thing, which isn't
totally put to rest I suppose...
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 5, 2001
I imagine domestic animals have many
color variations because of selective breeding: animals
specifically bred to each other for color, etc. Dinosaurs
probably had color variations too, especially genera like
Iguanodon that lived on many different continents.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 5, 2001
It is true that most modern mammal
analogues for dinosaurs don't have color vision...but still,
bright colors on big animals don't occur commonly even in
color-sighted animals. Maybe it was more common in dinosaurs than
in mammals, though.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 5, 2001
-DINOTALK POLL-
"Brontosaurus is the old name for Apatosaurus"/"Brontosaurus was
changed to Apatosaurus"
Apatosaurus is, of course, the _older_ name, which is exactly why
it is valid! What would you say is the most common mistake people
believe?
What would you call the biggest misconceptions about dinosaurs
today?
I'd have to answer-
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 5, 2001
Eric W. submitted the question:
"What is the sound that a Stegosaurus makes? if you can't get it
to me can you please send me the name of the site where i can find
it? Thank you for your time."
Matsumi Suzuki has analyzed the sounds of many popular dinosaurs,
including the Stegosaurus. You can go to this site to listen to
them:
http://www.discovery.com/exp/fossilzone/sounds/dinosounds.html
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 5, 2001
Thanks Brad, I'll add it to the Q and A section. JC
My guesses for dinosaur colours-
Coelophysis- black and white
I wouldn't say modern large animals are a good comparison- most
are mammals and do not have colour vision. How come nobody ever
makes a white dinosaur? Think about it- how many have you seen?
There aren't many black dinosaurs in pictures either, although
grey ones are really common. I'd also like to point out that many
animals come in a whole bunch of different colours- cats, dogs,
horses, rabbits- oh, wait, why are those all domestic animals?
Wild animals seem to have a more defined colour scheme for each
species.
Dilophosaurus- black and green
Plateosaurus- mostly brown
Stegosaurus- tan-brown, blue plates
Allosaurus- yellow and black, striped
Apatosaurus- green/grey/brown
Brachiosaurus- green
Velociraptor- brown and white (top/bottom)
Ankylosaurus- pink (suggested by scientific evidence!)
Pachycephalosaurus- blue and yellow speckled
Parasaurolophus- white with stripes of some colour
Centrosaurus- grey
Triceratops- tan or grey
Therizinosaurus- white
Tyrannosaurus- magenta with yellow
stripes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 5, 2001
There are dinosaur subspecies, its
just that everyone wants to have their own dinosaur and name a new
specimen at the drop of the hat. If you have ever read Predatory
Dinosaurs of the World Gregory Paul talks about this. He thinks
that Velociraptor and Deinonychus are the same thing, and I don't
agree with that statement but I do think that we should try and
make less genera and more new species in already existing genera.
There really are no qualities that stand out in many of the
ornithomimosaurs, except Harpymimus and Garudimimus, so they
should pretty much all be synonymized.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 5, 2001
I tried to read Dinosaur Summer but
found it very weird. I don't think I ever even got past the first
few chapters.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 5, 2001
Hens are NOT a correct analogy to
deinonychosaurs...that is like comparing a mouse to a wolf and
assuming that just because they are both mammals that they will
have similar lifestyles, eating habits, etc. As Brad said, hens
don't even have teeth! They don't have powerful legs for running
or grasping "hands" either! And they don't have gigantic claws on
their feet! I agree one hundred percent with what Brad said on
the matter, I just wanted to back him up :) hehe.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 5, 2001
Personally I think that religious
stories tend to be more symbolic representations than actual fact
or exaggeration of fact. But that's just an
opinion.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 5, 2001
Well, nothing's wrong with green,
except for the fact that everyone makes every dinosaur green!
AGH! Not very many large animals today are green, they are
usually grey. Or brown. So Triceratops was probably one of those
colors. But I just don't think very many large dinosaurs were
green!! But small dinosaurs...there is no way to predict their
color other than looking at what kind of vegetation they lived
with, and even with that it's only a chance.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 5, 2001
Is this a real subspecies of
_Iguanodon bernissartensis_? I didn't know there were dinosaur
subspecies.
http://www.dansjp3page.com/fanart/fa-view.asp?id=duarte
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 5, 2001
Hens don't have teeth, and their claws
aren't as large. Individual dromaeosaurs could probably kill
animals like sheep. If they did hunt in packs, I'd put
ornithopods like Tenontosaurus in the range of possibility. I
don't think dromaeosaurs attacked sauropods. Getting off topic,
how accurate are representations of prehistoric humans
pack-hunting elephants and other large mammals? Human societies
aren't much like ants. Naked mole rats don't kill large animals,
do they? Why are they eusocial? The novel "Dinosaur Summer", by
Greg Bear, features a colony of eusocial ?therapsids which behave
very much like insects. I love the creative hypothetical creatures
in that story.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 5, 2001
What's wrong with green dinosaurs? I
doubt that every dinosaur was green, but it is also unlikely that
no dinosaur was green. What colour was Triceratops? I personally
think it was a rather dull dinosaur, maybe light brown or grey.
It could have been green too, I guess. I don't really like the
idea of a red or blue Triceratops, or any other really bright
colour. Tyrannosaurus rex, a huge 'bird', was bright pink with
yellow stripes and ornamental feathers. :)
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 5, 2001
Not just Ty-dye, PASTEL TY-DYE!
Ick.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 5, 2001
You mean there was A debate in the
first place?
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 5, 2001
Religion is just believing about
something, not questioning things. many religious stories
probably are made much larger than life. For example, Moses
probably didn't split the Red sea, mabye it was a really low tide.
We still use stories to explain lots of things. examples include
Bigfoot, Yetis, and the Loch Ness monster. But personally, I don't
really think it's worth debating too heavily. Most people here
probably know the consequences of big debates over meaningless
things on this page.
from russell p,
age ?,
seattle,
wa,
usa;
March 4, 2001
Also, there are tons of different
religions, and most of them have some sort of "gods or God" or
some kind. Basically I just don't think anyone can be "wrong"
about religion: it's one of the few things in life that doesn't
have a set answer. You can have whatever religion you want and it
is still "right" if you believe in it.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 4, 2001
Why'd they have to make Hornsly green?
I'm getting tired of the "green dinosaurs" myth. And who wrote
that poem, Bear in the Big Blue House?
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 4, 2001
Honkie said, "Not that I want to sound
unscientific or anything, but I've seen to many things in the past
few days that happened both to myself and others to which science
offers no explination. Thus my sudden change of tone."
Actually I think it is unscientific to be naive enough to believe
that science can explain everything. You aren't being
unscientific.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 4, 2001
I know that the Triceratops wasn't Tie
dyed, but I flipped through the other new ones and found to my
absolute horror that there was ANOTHER "ty" dyed
bear.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 4, 2001
Oh yes...the scientist in me was
dumbfounded too...
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 4, 2001
Well...I hope there is a good
scientific reason for other people and me "reading" other people's
minds and healing them instantly and so on and so forth. And of
course, unless I'm mentally decluded or am still suffering from
"imaginary friend" problems, I wonder why I keep getting
"prompted" to do certain things that will solve problems I have
not yet forseen...it's real weird...what happened will leave the
biggest scientist dumbfounded...if he thinks he can find a good,
natural reason for all this...
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 4, 2001
Having the "raptors" to pack hunt is
absurd from basic principles of evolutionary biology. The only
animals which attack much larger prey like ants regardless of
losses sustained are eusocial insects like ants. They do it
because the colony, not the sterile worker individual, is the
passer on of genes and the unit on which natural selection acts.
If the colony loses 0.2 grams of worker to get 20 grams of prey it
may make a net gain in colony fitness justifying that (and ants,
such as army ants, that do regularly swarm over much larger prey
tend to have queens that produce vast numbers of eggs to replace
squashed workers quickly!) But a non-social vertebrate that
regularly gets itself killed so that even related individuals will
get more food will kill off the genes for such suicidal altruism
with itself. Only if the rest of the pack are very closely related
would such behaviour occur. That would only happen if
coelurosaurs, like naked mole-rats, were as eusocial as ants, complete with queen and sterile workers.
Mole rats evolved this because of their very odd lifestyle (in
fact evolutionary biologists predicted the naked mole-rat's social
structure form its life-style before either was discovered in the
field!). Coelurosaurs almost certainly were not eusocial and
therefore could not in principle have evolved the behaviour many
excited experts depicts.Our visions of superkiller raptors are as
ridiculous as depicting flocks of homicidal hens rampaging the
modern Bucks countryside, swarming over hapless sheep and pecking
them to death!
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 4, 2001
Hmm...I'm a little distracted
lately...I've just passed a major exam and am now at a important
educational crossroad in my life.... tough choices
man!
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 4, 2001
Russel, Brad, thanks!
from Bill G.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 3, 2001
Hornsly the Triceratops has already
been purchased by a few collectors, and pictures of the real thing
can be seen here:
http://www.randyandTheresa.com/March2001.html
I think I'll get one, despite scientific errors. He is *not*
Tie-dyed, but rather has raised areas of a different colour to
represent scales. The face doesn't look nearly as bad in the new
photo. Don't you agree? Unfortunately, Hornsly has a stupid,
stupid, stupid poem, and I'll put a plastic clip over the tag to
prevent it from being opened. Anyone know someone with an August
24 birthday?
On the recent science/religion discussion- 500 years ago, science
explained almost nothing. But science advanced, and now we know a
lot more. Have we figured out how everything in the universe
works? Of course not. I wouldn't expect us to have. Will we
ever know how life first formed from non-living matter? Perhaps,
but having theories without evidence do not advance our knowledge.
Honkie Tong, what exactly did you see? I'm very interested in
knowing.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 3, 2001
South American carnivores included
Staurikosaurus, Noasaurus, Carnotaurus, Piatnitskysaurus, and
Thylacosmilus.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 3, 2001
2 carnivores that lived in south
america, besides Gigantosaurus, were Carnotaurus and Eoraptor.
I would agree that you can believe in one God or Gods (things
having to do with a Religion0 or whatever and still believe in
evoloution. I know of lots of people who do, including myself.
Religious stories don't say why things happened (in detail) they
say what happened.
Today, I went to a "Dinosaur day" at my local Musuem, the Burke
Musuem. It was really neat. I had the chance to talk to the head
of the Musuem's Paleontology department who has made big
diccoveries about the dinosaur-bird conneaction. He answered a
few of the questions that have been in hot debate on this page
when I was talking with him.
from Russell p,
age ?,
seattle,
wa,
usa;
March 3, 2001
JC, I can't find the question and
answer page! Could you please tell me where I can find it from
here?
from Bill G.,
age 6,
?,
?,
?;
March 3, 2001
Click here for the question and answer page. JC
Honkie Tong, I am like you and
Chandler in one more way. I listen to what torah says, but then I
use it and change it into science. Creationists do not even notice
the line in Genesis that says "god gave every creature the
empowerment to adapt for the greater good." The seven days could
have been each millions of years and are called days so
non-scientific people would understand. This is so silly through
the eyes of some rabi I now who I beleve thinks that the earth is
flat because he sees torah litteraly, unlike my rabi who would
suport a theory like mine.
from Reuben B.,
age 8,
Needham,
MA,
USA;
March 3, 2001
Can anyone tell me the names of two
carnivores that lived in South America, besides
Gigonotosaurus?
from Bill G.,
age 6,
?,
?,
?;
March 2, 2001
Not that I want to sound unscientific
or anything, but I've seen to many things in the past few days
that happened both to myself and others to which science offers no
explination. Thus my sudden change of tone.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 2, 2001
17 bony plates? Sounds like a
Stegosaurus to me!
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 2, 2001
T-REX was a meat eater.How many
dinosars were there?I like dinosaurs.
This site is really,really cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What dinosaur had 17 bony plates on it's back?
from Mariah,
age 7,
Oak Creek,
WI.,
America;
March 2, 2001
Dinosaurs are the best and I wish they
still lived.
from Allie,
age 9,
Asheville,
North Carolina,
USA;
March 2, 2001
He he, you got me
Chandeler.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 2, 2001
T-REX was a meat eater.How many
dinosars were there?I like dinosaurs.
This site is really,really cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What dinosaur had 17 bony plates on it's back?
from Mariah,
age 7,
Oak Creek,
WI.,
America;
March 2, 2001
I think dinosaurs are SUPER
cool.
from Mariah,
age 7,
Oak Creek,
WI.,
?;
March 2, 2001
That Triceratops beanie baby is scary!
It looks like a deranged chameleon! AAH! I thought Ty, Inc. went
out of business because thier products weren't popular
anymore...hehe. I didn't know they were making MORE of these
frightening little things. AAH! Too much Tie-Die!
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 2, 2001
You can believe in "God" and still
believe in evolution (i.e. you don't have to be a creationist just
because you believe in God, gods, oversoul or whatever). I was
surprised at first at what Honkie said too, but I figured it out
hehe.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 2, 2001
Uh...the sky????
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 2, 2001
Nothing much...what's
up?
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
March 2, 2001
"What can I say, creationists know
very little about dinosaurs, but they sure are stubborn about the
little they know."
"The Dinosaurs exist for the very reason we do Ryla: God decided
to create them."
Uh, Honkie Tong? What happened?
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; February 9, 2001
from Honkie Tong, age 16, ?, ?, ?; February 28, 2001
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 1, 2001
i think dinsaurs are really neat and
kewl....i really like the t-rex
from brian r,
age 8,
richmond,
bc,
canada;
March 1, 2001
My dinosaur extinction theory is that
a meteor hit the Earth which blocked the sun, which killed the
plants, which killed the plant eating dinosaurs, which killed the
meat eating dinosaurs.
from Mikayla T.,
age 7,
Midlton,
Wisconson,
U.S.A;
March 1, 2001
I like Swoop, too. I got him for
Christmas. I don't have the Beanie dinosaur trio, by the time I
started collecting beanie babies they were long retired :( I
wish I had them, though. I was recently in Portland, oregon.
They had a really cool science museum there, and a small fossil
lab, with some dinosaur bones, an Allosaurus skull cast, and some
prehistoric mammal bones. I also went to a cool fossil shop.
They had lots of cool dinosaur things, Including Sauropod eggs,
Spinosaurus teeth, Coprolite bookholders, and a nest of Oviraptor
eggs (one with a partial embryo skeleton in it). Everything was
pretty expensive, though, so I only got a fossil fish (from the
Eocene).
from russell p,
age ?,
seattle,
wa,
usa;
March 1, 2001
You're right brad, it is not a
triceratops.
NEW! NEW SITE! http://communities.msn.com/choasthegamecom
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
March 1, 2001
http://www.ty.com/announcements/hornsley022801.html
That's no Triceratops, that's a Chameleon! :( Oh well, I'm still
buying one.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
March 1, 2001
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