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Wow, Brad, your story is excellent! It
surprised me at the end...cool, can't wait to see where it's
going.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 9, 2000
I bet your wondering why Velociraptor
died. You'll find out in Chaptor 3 The Megaraptor
Saga.
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 9, 2000
Cool story, Honkie Tong! That is so
true!
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 9, 2000
Honkie, you are good enough now!!! I'd
be proud to host some of your images!
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 9, 2000
Hey Brad it's me Afton I talked to you
over the summer I found out that some dino fans are'nt talking
anymore and guess what my uncle said that he used to dig up
dinosaur bones NO KIDDING well gotta go See Ya!
from Afton L.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 9, 2000
Honkie Tong , I am proud you liked
Dino-show-us.I'm thinking of a sequal to it.Would you like that?I
almost frogot!And tell Billy Macdraw to start a new seson of Dino
Warz.
from Reuben B.,
age 7,
Nedham,
MA,
USA;
November 9, 2000
Wow Chandler yer pictures are good. I
hope I can oneday draw well enuf to add to your
webpage.
from Honkie Tong,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 9, 2000
I guess my picture was way too big to
post, it was over 2.5mb. Anyway, Billy, if you are still in your
country, I am abput to post one chapter for you.
from Honkie Tong,
I don't like the hands on my
Velociraptor...hehe :)
When I redid my art gallery to include some other artists I took
off some of my older and more obsolete drawings. I think I still
have the Carnotaurus and Thescelosaurus images...somewhere, they
just aren't put up.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 9, 2000
I like your Velociraptor, Chandler.
What's wrong with it? I noticed that while your site was under
construction, a lot of images were deleted... what ever happened to
the shocking feathery Thescelosaurus? You should post that one
here. Didn't you have a Carnotaurus at one point
too?
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 9, 2000
i LiKe DiNoSaUrS. ThEy ArE
cOoL.
from dork e,
age 1,
?,
?,
China;
November 9, 2000
dinosaurs are cool. I like
them
from ?,
age 22,
?,
?,
china;
November 9, 2000
AHHHHHHHHH I GOT KILLED!....I LIKE IT.
Cool one Ruben, keep it up. This is Honkie clone 45
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 9, 2000
The prologue of my dinofiction will be
appearing on the Dinofiction page. I'm trying to write something
very different, it might not make sense at first. I hope you all
enjoy it anyway, I've got big plans for my story!
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 8, 2000
If you're still looking for pictures,
you can post any of mine... http://dinodex.8m.com Click on "art
gallery", then my name :) I have a velociraptor (warning:badly
done!) and lots and lots of Cryolophosaurus on there...and some
others, I really forgot how many hehe
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 8, 2000
Hey, JC, did you get the pictures I
drew?
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 8, 2000
Hi everyone, I don't like taking up
postings unnecesarilly, but I'm just writing to say that I probably
won't be posting for a time because of my schedule is so busy and I
can't manage discussions on the many boards I like to hang out at.
But I did enjoy the discussion I had here on Nanotyrannus, and I
hope others did, too. I post sporadically at some slower paced
dinosaur boards, so I'm not disappearing from the dinosaur scene
altogether, and will try and check back here now and then. Good
luck to all on your research, stories, and pictures!
from Gallimimus,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 8, 2000
my theory on the dnosaurs extinction
was that the ultra-violet lights
were at there brightist moment and the dinosuars walked into
extinction blindid by the suns rays .
from jake.c,
age 10,
brisbane,
QUEENSLAND,
AUSTRALIA;
November 8, 2000
I am posting an original
T.Imperator.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Really? I would like to do one chapter
of Old Blood! Expect my pictures in a few days.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
I see, looks like I will have to draw
them. You owe me bigtime Bill.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Too bad Honkie, looks like you will
have to put pencil to paper. Good luck. Anyway, how did you guess I
was going to explain Megaraptor 2000X that way? It was correct down
to the last word. Anyway, I am going overseas for a week, so I hope
you, Honkie can contuine Old Blood for me. Feel free to write
anything you want.(Not out of point though.)
Ps. Anyway, if I was your alter-ego, it dosent make sense as I am
older than you. Ha!
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Darn, I should have told you that I got
these pictures off a the artist allowing the distribuition of their
artwork, but I will see what I can do about it.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Okay Bill, Megaraptor 2000x is a
ill-concieved plan cooked up by a person whose name I will not
mention to take over the world by killing off all the T.Rexes. A
weapon totting-Tinker put an end to his rampage. (Warning kids!
Despite what Tinker did, my stand is clear: SMALL KIDS SHOULDN'T
PLAY WITH BIG GUNS!)
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Cool article. Err, JC, got my pictures
for Bill yet?
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
We can only publish pictures with the consent of the artist. If you're the artist, great, but we cannot publish the artwork of other people - that's against the law in the US. JC
Holtz? As in Dr.Holtz? What are you
doing here? I reconize your article! Why do you think Nanotyrannus
is a young T.rex?
from Levine,
age 24,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Since I have done some degree of
research in this field, I thought I ought to state my
conclusions/opinions on the subject of Tyrannosaurus predation:
Among large modern terrestrial hypercarnivores (a useful term
mammalogists use for animals which derive >95% of their food in the
form of vertebrate flesh), there are three major predatory
repetoires:
Grapple-and-slash. Best typified by modern felids (cats), these are
predators characterized by highly compressed, recurved, blade-like
claws on the hands and feet; relatively short and powerful limbs;
and tails used as dynamic stabilizers to allow for quick turns.
Grapple-and-slash predators are for the most part ambush predators,
which seize the prey with the forelimbs after a very short chase.
The prey is then dispatched with a combination of slashes from the
forelimb, disemboweling kicks with the hindlimb, and bites and/or
suffocation with the mouth. Grapple and slash predators are not
particularly fast in the long run, but are good for short
acceleration. [And for some reason, Jack Horner seems to think that
this is the preferred form of predation, despite it being limited
today to only one major group, the Felidae].
Grapple-and-bite. Best typified by modern raptorial birds, these
are predators characterized by claws which are curved but fairly
round in cross-section. These claws are at the end of fairly
powerful limbs. Grapple-and-bite predators today are for the most
part ambushers ("death from above"), which seize the prey with the
forelimbs, dispatching the prey with bites to the neck or back, and
flying away with the carcass to eat elsewhere. The claws are used
primarily for holding prey, while the jaws are the main killing
tool.
Pursuit-and-bite. Typified today by canids (dogs, wolves, etc.),
hyaenids, the cheetah, and in the recent past by flightless
predatory birds. The claws of pursuit-and-bite predators are for
the most part not highly curved and are rounded in cross-section.
These predators do have powerful jaws and necks, long teeth, and
relatively long limbs. Pursuit-and-bite predators
characteristically run down their prey after a fairly long chase,
seize the prey in their jaws, and kill the prey with a combination
of biting and suffocation. The claws, if used at all, are used to
stabilize the victim so the jaws can do their work.
Most large theropods (allosauroids, megalosauroids, Dryptosaurus,
etc.), match some variation on the grapple-and-bite theme. The hand
claws of these animals closely match the proportions and angles of
predatory birds, and are at the end of short but powerful arms.
Like predatory birds, these claws were probably not the primary
weapons of killing, but were used to seize and hold the prey while
the jaws did the work. Note that it is these animals, and not
dromaeosaurids, which match modern "raptors" the best.
Tyrannosaurids fit well with the pursuit-and-bite catagory. Like
canids and hyaenids, they have proportionately long legs (T. rex
itself has legs which are more "cursorial" than the man-sized
herbivore Dryosaurus and other accepted runners), very powerful
jaws, and claws of the hand and feet which are not highly curved
and rounded in cross-section. Although they may not have pursued
prey for wolf-like distances, the body of anatomical evidence
points to the adaptations of tyrannosaurids as being predatory, and
specifically pursuit-and-bite predatory, features.
And as for scavenging - none of the alledged scavenging features
suggested by Horner holds up in quantitative or comparative
analysis. His claim that predators need to use their forelimbs in
prey acquisition does not stand the test of observations of the
modern world. Tyrannosaurids show more cursorial adaptations than
any other large Late Cretaceous Asiamerican dinosaur (hadrosaurids,
ceratopsids, ankylosaurids, etc.), so they probably were faster
than any of these.
BUT... as others have already pointed out, scavenging and predation
are not mutually exculsive behaviors. In some regions of Africa,
for example, lions are predominantly scavengers and hyaenas the
major predators, while in other parts of the same continent, these
roles are reversed. Tyrannosaurids would be in a good position to
bully any other theropod away from a corpse (dromaeosaurids
arguably may be more deadly pound for pound, but tyrannosaurids had
a LOT more pounds...). It is not unreasonable that certain
individual tyrannosaurid populations, or even species, may have
gotten most of their food from carcasses. Nevertheless, the anatomy
of tyrannosaurids indicates that they were capable of dispatching
prey using techiniques grossly similar to those used by canids,
hyaenids, and the like - running down animals, seizing them in
their jaws, and ripping out huge chunks and/or suffocating the prey
item until it was dead.
Comparing theropods to these repetoires, it is fairly easy to
relate different groups to the three catagories. Dromaeosaurids are
excellent candidates for grapple-and-slash predators, since they
proportionately short and stout legs (forget ever reference you've
seen to Velociraptor and Deinonychus as being "swift" as dinosaurs
go. Even Tyrannosaurus rex has proportionately longer lower legs
and feet than do these smaller forms). The claws of the hand and
the sickle-claw of the foot match the proportions and angle of
felid claws very nicely, and the tail of dromaeosaurids has been
known to be a dynamic stabilizer since 1969. And of course, the
fighting Velociraptor specimen is in classic grapple-and-slash
predatory attack, inculding the disemboweling kicks to the belly of
the Protoceratops.
from Holtz,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
I just read Raptor 4, the pachy will
beat the living daylights out of a Velociraptor! retreat!
retreat!
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Honkie, you say you are me right? Then
explain Megaraptor 2001x to firebird.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Billy Macdraw, you are my alter-ego! I
am the real person!
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Ideas for Raptor:
Actually, Velociraptor is a primitive type of Raptor, so I would
expect it to have been flattened by Megaraptor in the first place,
but anyway, the wet season will mean predators and prey alike
coming together at the water's edge...heh heh heh.
Velociraptor is actually a small player in your story as its effect
on other dinosaurs would be minimised by its size...why not tell it
from Megaraptor's point of view?
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
I haven't had much time to write but
the next RAPTOR will be soon.
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Billy, what is a Megaraptor2001 type x?
I saw it on DINO WARZ but I'm not sure what it is.
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Listen, Honkie when Billy says "I give
some credit to Honkie Tong." That's fine.
Listen, I need some ideas for RAPTOR. And tell me what you
honestly think about it.
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
HMMM....Honkie
Tong=Billy???
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
When is the next Raptor coming out
anyway?
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Hello everybody, I got to go to school
now!
from Honky Tong,
age 12,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Sure Bill. What do you think of my
pictures.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Hello.. .. How's everyone
doing?
from Suchomimus,
age 11,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
need help with facts about dinosaurs
like how old what they eat? what they do to defend
themselvs
from alex,
age 09,
hollywood,
florida,
usa;
November 7, 2000
Hi, Owen.
Although I was certain the Spice Girls fell under the category of
old extinct things, it turns out they have new hit videos on Much
Music. Some people don't recognize them though!
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 7, 2000
Dinosaurs are fun to talk about.I
personally love dinosaurs.The dinosaurs roamed the earth in the
Mesozoic Era.Talk to me more.
from Mondaizie R.,
age 10,
Macon,
Georgia,
United States of America;
November 7, 2000
Hi,I love the spice Girls
LOVE.OWEN!
from Owen,
age 13,
LaPine,
Oregon,
America;
November 7, 2000
If you want some of the credit, that's
fine.
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Enough of this rubbish, Honkie, could
you render Sue, Suzie and Sue-Imperator for me?
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
I do not understand this? Why do you
say Billy Macdraw is you?
from Levine,
age 24,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
What rubbish are you talking Honkie? I
am the original, you're the alter-ego!
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
did anyone enjoy being in dino warz? i
did! (i know trex did win, that's the part i hated!)
i'm back! oh and i enjoyed being in dino warz! yo, i liked your
story Brad. it was goooooooood! keep writing!
Old Blood 5-7 was great! I can hardly wait for more!
Old Blood 10 was awesome!
I just read Old Blood 11. It was really good. Keep up the good work
Billy. Old Blood
rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gosh, Billy, Old Blood is excellent, keep up the good work! It's
just like Jurassic Park but with way cooler dinos! hehe, I always
wished JP'd of had Oviraptors! Giganotosaurus too, wow. Good
job.
Old Blood
rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Intreasting story....
How come Billy Macdraw gets all the credit? I am him and he is me!
The credit should go to me too!
coolcat
coolcat
Brad
firebird
firebird
Chandler
firebird
?
from Honkie Tong?,
age 16?,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Thanks JC, for doing all this work.
It's a very good thing you are doing here. Anyway, what do you guys
think of another season of Dino Warz?
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
I have no idea if I got them in the right order (It's 1:30 in the morning here - I'm about to quit for the night). JC
Hey JC, I am moving the entire Dino
Warz to the fanfic page. Could you seperate the stories Old Blood,
Raptor and Dino Warz for the reader's benifits?
from Billy Macdraw,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 7, 2000
Yes, but it will take me some time. JC
Here's a picture of the Honky Tong that is the other guy in this
chatroom.
Beside him is a picture of an Allosaurus head, not to scale though.
This
Honky Tong is not Honkie Tong, which is me.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
Naa, I heard there's some work going on
with compairing T.Rex DNA with Nanotyrannus. Since everyone is so
intrested in the topic, here's what they found so far. Nanotyrannus
was closely related to Tyrannosaurus but wasn't a T.Rex. This is
not really conclusive though, for they are working with 15-20
percent of the orginal strand. The DNA was taken form a Nano tooth
and a T.Rex leg bone.
from Onituphia,
age ?,
Kedah,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
Descripition: This is a picture of a
Tyrannosaurus Rex (Just about the only dino I can draw well.) It
looks grainy because I actually enlarged it, but I hoped you liked
it anyway.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
Which budding paleontologist wouldn't
know Dr. Bakker? I have only been in the job for half a year and
aready I have heard much about him. He is respected, but I wouldn't
say taken seriously in everything that he says. We still beg to
differ on Brachiosaurus giving birth to 500-pound, life young. Or
on that Megalosaurus was bigger than Giganotosaurus.
from Levine,
age 24,
?,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
Odd, to say that Nanoteeth were like
Tyrannosaurus... if there is a Tinker-Nano connection, it means the
Triceratops was brought down or scavenged by a mob of young
Tyrannosaurus or Nanotyrannus...or more likely, the parents killed
the food for them.
from Timon,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
Hmm, people talking about me? Anyway, I would like to say that Nanotyrannus was probally as real as
Anatotitan.
from Honky Tong,
age 12,
?,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
Paleontology is prone to change, so I
can only offer you my speculations of the Tinker-Nano case. It was
unlikely the Nano teeth belonged to Tinker, that's all I can say.
This probally shows either two things. Tinker was scavenged or
killed by Nanotyrannus, or that young Tyrannosaurus like to kill
and eat their own. It's likely this question will be solved if we
find more young Tyrannosaurus bones. Infant Tyrannosaurus bones
have been found, mostly of the leg and shin. A concial tooth
fragment not much bigger than a pencil tip has laso been found.
This could mean that infant Tyrannosaurus didn't have Nanotyrannus
teeth after all in the first place. Prehaps it seemed more likely
that Nanotyrannus was the young of another species of Tyrannosaur
more closely related to Albertosaurus. The Nanotyrannus skull
surely looked like a cross between the nutcracker jaws of
Tyrannosaurus and the slenderer jaws of a
Albertosaurus.
from Levine,
age 24,
?,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
I am Honkie Tong, Honky Tong is a
celebrity, you can find his picture in perfect10.com.sg, the
offical webpage of a radio station if there's any help. No, I do
not know who Honky Tong is.
from Honkie Tong?,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
Where are all of you getting your info?
It is different from what I am hearing. I was about to suggest a
check for scavenging in the bones, as I have heard nothing on this.
And my point about the Nano/Tinker association is that while it
would certainly be possible for Nanos to be scavenging, when
everything else is added up it hurts the case more than helps it. I
should have "safe-guarded" my previous post from such before, but
was in a hurry. Anyway, I did further research on the DML, and came
across two things:
1. According to Dr. Holtz, the nano skull is definately of a
juvenile something- the bone texture is ropey, like that of a young
animal growing fast. (This is from Dr. Holtz, not me, so I can't
confirm/disprove anything on it.)
2. A Triceratops fossil found a few years ago was also discovered
in association with nano teeth. Interestingly enough, according to
the person who posted, which was getting info from an article, one
of the teeth was more like "that of an adult T-rex." They didn't
say anymore than that, so I have no idea what that means.
Anyway, for the moment I am siding with the people at the list, and
until something more definitive on Nanotyrannus comes out, I am not
convinced of its reality.
Speaking of unrealities, as I can't resist a controversy, what's
everyone's opinion on Tsintaosaurus? First they give it that
unicorn spike, then they say it was a mistake and attribute it to
the hadrosaurine Tanius, then a report comes out that a second
skull is found with the spike and it's not a mistake after all,
there's dancing in the streets and suddenly Tsintaosaurus becomes a
lambeosaurine related to Parasaurolophus, and then we hear nothing
more. What's the deal?
from Gallimimus,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
Are there two people named Honkie/Honky
Tong now?
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 6, 2000
I don't understand how nano teeth can
be found near Tinker if he was moving about. He certainly wasn't
staying in the area at that time. To say where Tinker found was a
nest doesn't make sense. Tyrannosaurus would be mightly stupid to
build its nest at a riverbed. I donno? Does tinker have a shedding
ground? Besides, did Tinker bite himeslf? The nano teeth found had
bone fragments of Tinker stuck in them.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
What I find coincidental, is the
discovery of Tinkers so called "baby" teeth with his body. His
adult teeth were all fully formed and ready to go, meaning he had
those for at least 4 weeks. Tinker died in a acient riverbed, which
was by no means his nest. The idea is that we can't figure how
Tinker dropped his teeth about 4 weeks backs, walked all over the
place and then came back to die there. Whatever, he certainly
wasn't staying in one spot. The Nano teeth were found tightly
clustered around Tinkers' body, and corresponds to predation
patters. Don't get me wrong. A lot of my friends used to think Nano
was a Tyrannosaurus unil Tinker was found.
You argument is a bit like saying: " I think Tyrannosaurus was a
predator...I find a tooth in a Anatotitan...hmm, evidence of
predation is too coincidental because I happen to look for
it...what are the odds of finding evidence of predation while I am
looking for it? Naa, The Tyrannosaur tooth must have fell onto the
Anatotitan and fused with it while it was scavenging it...hmm,
what? You say the wound healed so it indicates an attack? I cannot
be. Whatever, I reject this because it is too
coincidental.
from Levine,
age 24,
?,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
Yeah man, mabye the raptors went
extinct because they attacked prey too large for
themselves.
from Honky Tong,
age 12,
?,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
On the topic of 'raptorology...
A presentation featured at Science North's 2000 dinosaur exibit,
which I attended, depicted Currie investigating two Deinonychus
that had been crushed in titanosaur footprints. Deinonychus even
had titanosaur bone fragments in its teeth, as the pack (or pair, I
think it was) had attacked the titanosaur's baby before being
crushed by the adult. The video, which was part of a motion
simulator ride, presents a very exciting discovery. But why
haven't I seen anything about this on any dinosaur websites? Did
they just make it up? Kind of disturbing.
Today's raptors are also increasingly birdlike. Seen Luis Rey's
Deinonychus? Here's the link-
http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~luisrey/html/deino.htm
It's a killer turkey, but it's still an ugly turkey! Not a bad
picture, but I still get the feeling the future doesn't look to
good for our sickle-clawed friends.
Looks like the end, raptor fans.
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 6, 2000
Dryosaurus was a plant-eating
iguanodont. But if you're thinking of Dryptosaurus, that is an
extremely cool predator. I'd like to see more modern
reconstructions published. Unfortunately, Dr. Bakker has said a
lot of stuff I can find no reference to in the books. Is there any
chance Discovery will show that again soon? Megalosaurus and
Dryptosaurus are both great underrated predators that deserve more
attention. At least I voted for them.
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 6, 2000
Hey i found a book on dinosaurs at
lenox mall in atlanta GA. It's in astore called GPTV discovery
store.
from Samuel C.,
age 9,
Columbus,
Georgia,
U.S.A.;
November 6, 2000
Personally, though, while there's no
evidence of two types of teeth in T-rex, I find the association of
Tinker with Nano teeth quite suspect. If they were different
animals, the last place a proponent of this would want to find such
teeth is anywhere near a rex. While that's hardly proof of
anything, it seems a little too coincidental that so many nano
teeth are found with Tinker, even if his current dentition is as an
adult. That, coupled with the recent failure to locate the fusion
(and reports of several features completely unique to Tyrannosaurus
rex mentioned in the same paper) and several other things I don't
have time to list at present, have many experts either doubtful of
Nanotyrannus's authenticity or without opinion on it. Hopefully
future discoveries will settle the issue once and for all.
As for raptors, I agree they are quite overrated. Deinonychus may
have formed some sort of hunting group, based on circumstantial
evidence, but I get really annoyed seeing every single raptor
species in a pack type formation, with no regard to their
individual habitats and builds. I generally try to keep my
Velociraptors solitary or in small, loose family units, more to
break the monotony of having the same behavior patterns, but also
taking into account the fact that its environment was so much
different from the likes of Deinonychus. I suspect Dromaeosaurus
had different behavior, too, because of its different, more
powerful build.
from Gallimimus,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 6, 2000
Cool organisation of my story, thanks
JC, I really appericated it.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
Thanks. JC
Nothing much, I just want to see how
much you kids know...alot, apparently.
from Levine,
age 24,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
Currently, my department is divided
into two camps:
Those who believe the raptors were the deadilest predators ever,
fast, smart and hunted in packs. They leaped onto their prey and
tore them to shreds with their toe claws.
The other camp believe the raptors were predators, but not as
deadily. They probally didn't hunt in a pack and didn't bring down
large prey all the time.
I am in the second camp, why?
Alot of my work involves working out injuries in dinosaur fossils
due to predator-prey relationships. Some Tyannosaurus skeletons had
their legs painfully broken by an Anykylosaur club, but somehow
stayed upright to head. Allosaurs have been found to suffer rib
fractures when they belly-flopped hard while running.
The same is not for the raptors.
If they did use their claws to slice their prey open, I don't see
how. Working through flesh with a 30 cm claw needs effort. And you
need big and deeply attatched muscles to work it. Raptor claws have
a tendon attatchment to swing it, but it was only moderately
strong, not enough to work it into a long gash, according to our
estimates. We suspect that- if the raptors did hunt big prey, they
probally used their claws as grappeling hooks, not sickles as
previously thought. The claws have also showed no stress damage one
would associate with such a trumatic condition like kicking with
it.
The raptors are probally overrated
from Levine,
age 24,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
Well, we don't have any evidence of
pack behaviour in mordern day birds. So it's unlikely the Raptors
packed. But I suspect they did mob. Meaning they had no plan but
flocked together to bring down large prey. A flock has little or no
structure but a pack has its own order and arragment.
Tyrannosaurus proally did move around in groups. 10 Rexes charging
a herd of Hardosaurs have a higher chance of catching something in
the confusion. One hardosaur could probally feed a Rex pack for
days, so it does make sense.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
We suspect Tyrannosaurus Imperator was
actually T.Rex, but you can find her in Dino Warz! The
Tyrannosaurus were probaly the best equipped killing dinos
ever.
from Honky Tong,
age 12,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
Tinker is clearly a T-rex because of
his teeth. Tinker's teeth have tall, conical, slightly recurved
anterior crowns… these crowns are taller relative to diameter and
more circular in cross section than any other member of the
tyrannosaurid family; Tinker's lower jaws hold a single nipping
tooth and 12-13 tooth sockets (per side).
Whew, that's a mouthful…it means, in short, that T-rexes have very
distinctive teeth, Tinker has those same teeth…so Tinker is a Late
Cretaceous T-Rex and not something else.
The fact that Tinker has the same teeth as an adult T-rex plus the
fact that there is no indication of Tinker having had different
`baby teeth' tells us a lot. Tinker must have eaten the same food
as the adults. (There were some acid eroded and etched duckbill
remains mixed in with Tinker's bones, indicating his last meal. It
would have been a meal identical to what his parents would have
eaten.)
As an example of what this means, today, baby crocodiles have
totally different teeth than adults. The baby teeth are needle
sharp for snagging insects, frogs, and other small prey. Their
parents don't feed them, they look out for their own dinner. Tinker
doesn't appear to be like that at all. And this is where one can
speculate on T-rex social/family behavior…
Did Tinker's parents feed him? It would seem so. It is possible
that Tinker could have begun to hunt for himself but he was pretty
young. Mammalian predators today, at Tinkers age, don't hunt. One
or both parents, prepares their food for them (I guess you could
say). So were Tyrannosaurs like modern lions or leopards? We don't
know, but finds like Tinker might help us answer these questions
and many, many more. More importantly, Tinker will help us find new
questions to ask.
We don't know how Tinker died though we hope to find out. Maybe
Tinker was killed by a pack of Nanotyrannus (Nano's were probably
cousins of T-rexes); many shed Nano teeth were found with Tinker's
body…Nano teeth are sharper and more delicate than rex teeth. Did
they kill Tinker, or just feast on a convenient food source? We'll
let you know what we find, as we find it.
The simple presence of Nano teeth is interesting and is a great
example of new things that Tinker will be able to tell us…When
Nanotyrannus was first discovered many scientists insisted it was a
young T-rex, not some midget distant cousin (Nano's were probably
only half the size of a full sized rex). So much for that theory.
Tinker's teeth are every bit T-rex, not at all like Nano teeth. We
will be learning many more things similar to this as more of Tinker
is freed and examined…and not just about Tinker.
Gallimimus, I find the idea of the Nano teeth belonging to Tinker
difficult to believe. Tinker could move around and was certainly
not confined to that certain area. If Tinker had Nano teeth, he
would have shed them all over the place as he followed his parents.
They say more than 10 Nano teeth were found near Tinker. Actually,
Tinker's teeth were all adult teeth and fully grown. I find it even
harder to believe that Tinker would have shed these teeth some time
back, grew adult teeth, and then died on the same spot he shed his
teeth some time back. It's even harder to believe than the Nano got
Tinker story.
from Timon,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
Hey, Levine. What's a 24 year old
paleontologist like you doing here in ZoomDinosaurs? Is nano really
a T.rex?
from Honky Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
I have no idea what this "Raptor" or
"Old Blood" is what is it? Then why are you guys going all loony
over Tyrannosaurs and dromaeosaurs? I LOVE all dinosaurs and
mammals too, but there are more exciting types than raptors.
Dryosaurus could whip a raptor, hes faster, a big head full of
teeth and large claws on each hand not to mention such long and
lanky fore arms. Has anyone heard about Tyrannosaurus Imperator???
Hes HUGE, a 7 foot long head, now thats big. If any of you saw the
Discovery show about the Giganotosaurus and Tyrannosaurus,
Dr,Bakker said that Megalosaurus was bigger than Giganotosaurus.
Thats cool, guess he was mostly designed to kill big sauropods more
than anything else. Then I saw something about T.Bataar and T.Rex.
T.Bataar is pretty much the same thing plus North America and
Eurasia being connected at that time. Like Brad, Im also very
skillful in paleontology...Ive had this theory in the early
cretaceous period which mainly cons!
isted of large raptors and allosaur types in North America and Asia
as the big carnivores, I dont think alll raptors were pack hunters.
Kind of think of the raptor like a saber-tooth tiger, theyre prey
consisted MAINLY of BIG animals, but they were'nt the most deadly
or top predators. The big allosaurs were the top predators, not to
mention, in a battle with two carnivorous dinsaurs, the battle is
furious, close and extremely fast, raptors could hold their own
well, but they couldnt cut it. With those long lanky arms and that
short mouth along with them being more light than other big
carnivores, before it could whip around those loong arms he would
already be getting his neck chewed up. Raptors probably used more
jumping and slapping than any other move. I wonder does anybody
know that many ornithomimids were strict vegetarians eating soft
twigs, leaves and berries like a moa. Has anyone read that
scientific news?? its really cool all the stuff they found out like
tyrannosaur!
pack behavior.What is raptor and how do I read it?
from Mr Rogers,
age ?,
?,
?,
USA;
November 5, 2000
The Horner in my story is based on the
Horner in real life. They are two different people though. I didn't
really agree with his conclusions on Tyrannosaurus, so what better
situtation to test these conclusions than infront of a real
Tyrannosaurus- with a misinformed Japanese man to test their real
speed limit?
Ha ha, I feel a little cruel today.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
.....,
.....,
.....;
November 5, 2000
That's really odd. A report made by a
fellow lecture mate said he found fusion. The evidence is
contradictory. Anyway, the reason we say that Nanotyrannus is more
like a scaled down Tyrannosaurus is because it had the skull
proportions of a full grown Tyrannosaur. Nanotyrannus' skull was
superfically like Tyrannosaurus, but it was actually more like
Albertosaurus. Tinker's skull looked more like a young animal with
big eyes in proportion to its skull. It's either Tinker was not a
Tyrannosaurus or that Nanotyrannus was not a Tyrannosaurus.
Anyway, we find no evidence to suggest that Tyrannosaurus had two
types of teeth like crocs. Crocs have them because of they need
them to capture insects and small prey. Animals taken care of when
they are young do not require a special set of teeth to fend for
themselves. Anyway, a paper written by my friend stated that the
hatching Albertosaurus found had adult teeth. We don't see why not
in hatching Tyrannosaurus.
from Levine,
age 24,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
Yes, good idea, actually, I prefer it
that way.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
Ok, I'll change it. JC
I'm trying to be as accurate as
possible. So please correct me when I make any Paelo-mistakes. I
have correct the length of the raptor head and a few spelling
errors here and there when I moved the entire story to the fiction
board. Fell free to print the story and read it.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
Great, but I had problems reading Old
Blood as it was the installments were arranged backwards. It it
possible to make every new post add to the botton of the page
instead of the top? It's like reading a book backwards.
Billy Macdraw, you are the Tom Clancy of the dinosaur
world
from Lilian Tay,
age 11,
Singapore,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
That's fine with me - Billy MacDraw - do you want it that way? JC
Hi, I'm new here and i wanted to know
about what your talking about.
from raptor,
age 14,
mountdora,
Fl,
u.s.a;
November 5, 2000
You people can print out my story for
easy reading, but you'll need at least 60 sheets of
paper.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
.....,
.....,
.....;
November 5, 2000
The Next old blood will be out
soon.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
Dear Dinosaur:
I like to do the dinosaur count game but I could'nt play it.Why?I
like to talk to you in the computer.
Friend,
Diprarag.
from Diprarag,
age 8,
Toronto,
Ontario,
Canada;
November 5, 2000
You were probably at the advertisement for the CD-ROM Busy Little Brains (it's not an online game, and it's for pre-readers).
AWESOME!!!!!! I LIKE THE COLOR OF THE
TEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
Chaptor 4 of RAPTOR is
out!!!!!!!!
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
I am writing like as soon as I write a
chaptor I put it on the web. You can use any method you want to
though.
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
Great!
Testing
Testing
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 5, 2000
Announcement: we've changed the dinotalk script so that when you use a carriage return (or two) in your post, it will show up in your post (you no longer need to need to use html tags). More than two returns show up as just two. Dino Fiction works the same way. We also changed the color of the post - any comments?
from JC.,
??,
Mercer Island,
WA,
USA;
November 5, 2000
No recent dinosaur news? They must be
digging up something big...
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 5, 2000
There's a new bipedal Permian lizard called Eudibamus, the earliest-known biped, but I didn't put it in the dino news section (since it's not a dino); it's in the paleo dictionary.
I will try to write my first chapter by
next week. Should I post it immediately, or write my whole story
first? I don't want to post parts of a story I might not
finish.
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 5, 2000
Tyrannosaurus lived in North America
and Asia. Although it would be more proper to put T. bataar in an
Asian setting, I let people have their own views of which dinosaurs
are synonymous. If you think T. rex is the single valid species of
Tyrannosaurus, you'd have T. rex in Asia too. That is unless you
go the other way and make T. bataar its own genus, in which case
you'd use Tarbosaurus. Velociraptor may have also lived in North
America, if you count Saurornitholestes as a species/synonym of
Velociraptor. (same goes for Deinonychus, but that's a different
time period) Gallimimus is unquestinably Asian, being different
from the Ornitho/Strutio/Dromecieo/-mimus group.
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 5, 2000
That's true, firebird. The more
different dinosaurs, the cooler the story.
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 5, 2000
You should also ask what Tyrannosaurus
is doing there. He lived in North America!
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
Oh, and RAPTOR is set in very late
Cretaceous. Almost when the dinosaurs died out.
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
It is fiction Brad! You can do anything
you want with fiction! I could put Gigantosaurus in there if I
wanted to.
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 5, 2000
The presence of Velociraptor,
Tyrannosaurus, and Gallimimus seemed to suggest Raptor was set in
Late Cretaceous Mongolia- but what is Megaraptor doing there?
Maybe this isn't the real Cretaceous after all.
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 5, 2000
I wouldn't consider Dinosaur Lives
among the best dinosaur books (the lack of an index was rather
frustrating), but if you liked it that's fine. Also by Horner is
'Digging Dinosaurs' (1988), which is about the discovery and
behavior of Maiasaura, and the excellent 'The Complete T. Rex'
(1993). Bakker's 'Dinosaur Heresies' (1986) and the science-based
novel 'Raptor Red' (1995) have a good deal of specualtion about the
behavior of dinosaurs. As for encyclopedias, the biggest and best
is Donald Glut's 'Dinosaurs The Encyclopdia' (1997). You might
also like 'The Complete Dinosaur' (1997), a large collection of
dinosaur articles by various experts.
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 5, 2000
Raptor3 is here. It is at the Dino
Fiction page. (There is a link above.)
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 4, 2000
I will now be doing my stories at the
dino fiction page!
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 4, 2000
Recent studies have failed to find the
skull fusion mentioned by Bakker et al. previously, so who knows
what the deal is there. What do you mean by nano being a scaled
down rex? As far as I know, it is only known from a skull. If a
skeleton were found it would end the debate once and for all, but
we can't pick and choose what we find. At any rate, there are many
threads dedicated to Nanotyrannus on the DML, and I'll dig up the
address for anyone interested. Many of the people there have read
the papers on nano, including the 1999 study in which no fusion was
found, and some I think have even seen the specimen (the DML, for
anyone who doesn't know, is composed of many kinds of enthusiasts,
including amatuers, professionals, and paleoartists.)
I remembered a report from a while ago about detecting pigments in
fossils, but as far as I know, this could only be done for fish
(don't remember why.)
from Gallimimus,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 4, 2000
Do you like my
idea?????????????????????????????????????????????????
from anonymous,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 4, 2000
Chaptor 2 of RAPTOR is
here!
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 4, 2000
I think Minimi was light green or
yelllow.
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 4, 2000
I'm thinking about the ending. I'm
sure your story will be awesome, Brad!
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 4, 2000
I 'm glad they're not around too,
consdering that Allosaurus was 38 feet long, and 16.5 feet tall.
It wieghed 1400kg.
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 4, 2000
Thanks, Brad. If you have any info on
those three Dinosaurs please let me know!
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 4, 2000
Does anyone know any good dinosaur
books to read? I just finished Dnosaur Lives by Jack Horner and I'm
really interested in more books about their speculated behaviour. I
would also like a new dinosaur encyclopaedia. Can anyone suggest
some up-to-date ones?
from DW,
age 14,
Sngapore,
?,
?;
November 4, 2000
Well, Sophin thinks the alot of the
animals have escaped from their paddock somehow, not just the
terrible claws. He wants to prove this. Anyway, the allosaurs in my
story are the original 32 feet ones, not the big 40 feet ones. I
alos didn't use Nanotyrannus and Anatotitan as they might not exist
at all.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
Super North American Allosaurs...who
would have thought it? Anyway, why did they go extinct if they were
so good?
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
They found some pigments on the
ankylosaur, leading them to belivev it was yellow. Though this is
not conclusive, as pigments can change colour over time. One thing
we know is, dinosaurs were probally colourful.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
Really? I thought Tinker was smaller, I
read Kidrex.com...or was he lighter but bigger?
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
Technically, Tinker was smaller due to
his gangly, lanky build. He weighted slightly less than a nano at
850kilos. He was technically longer. Anyway, Tinker had the bulid
of a baby Tyrannosaur- longer legs, smaller head and gangly build.
Nano on the other hand, looked mote like a scaled down T.Rex.
Nano also had the bones of it's skull fused, as found in the CAT
scan, done by Bakker, indictaing it was an adult. Tinker's skull ha
not yet fused, not unlike young baby birds. This led Bakker and
myself to conclude that Tinker was younger
from Levine,
age 24,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
when cleveland-lloyd dinosaur quarry in
utah was excavated, they found over 40 allosaurus's in that one site.
they found some of them to be over 40 feet in length. a little smaller
in stature, yes. but not much. head was more streamline and not as
bulky as the t-rex. being that these two different animals lived in
about 80 million years of evolution seperation allosaurus at 150 mya
and the t-rex at 70 mya. they both were fierce animals in there
respected time. no matter which was better equipped. i am glad that
they aren't around today. how about you?
from gt,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
Very cool, firebird. Velociraptor, T.
rexes, Gallimimus- seems like a winning combination. I'd like to read
more. I am also playing with an idea in my head right now for
dinosaur fiction, but I haven't written any of it yet because I don't
know how I want the ending (or even what dinosaur I'll feature, but it
might be... oh, I'm not telling now).
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 3, 2000
It is here!! My sample is here!! Read
it!!
from fireird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
I know a lot about dinosaurs.My favorite
dinosaurs are:Utahraptor,Giganotosaurus,T.Rex,& Carcharodontosaurus.I
like dinosaurs.I also like Digimon&Pokemon.
from Jimmy H.,
age 9,
Chicago,
Illinois,
U.S.A.;
November 3, 2000
Reference is made to a "crest" (the
original writer surrounded this with quotations, and since I'm not
sure why I'll leave it that way) that is identified as filaments
running along the scalp, extending no further forward on the head than
beyond the eyes. Unfortunately, I have only encountered this in one
place, and all restorations I've seen of Sinornithosaurus don't have
this feature. However, the person who said this probably has access to
sources I don't, and if anyone wants to pursue it I'll ask where the
information came from.
from Gallimimus,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
Who suspects Minmi was
yellow?
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 3, 2000
Dromaeosaur crests being those cool bone
ridges running down the snout in some pictures, or the silly upright
feathers attached to the back of the head on other
pictures?
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 3, 2000
Hi, Afton. Good to hear from you again.
Old Blood is a story taking place on the Vote for your Favourite
Dinosaur page. Other stories are posted there too, including the Dino
Warz scripts and something coming soon from Firebird. Do you think
there'd be any chance of fan fiction/ anytime
soon?
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 3, 2000
Good idea - I'll work on it. I wonder if the rest of the group realizes that you were the person whose suggestion started dinotalk. JC
I am going to give you a piece of sample
writing. Tell me if you like it. Tell me if you want me to keep going.
Look for it at the voting page.
from firebird,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
I checked the DML archives again, and
according to information there Tinker is larger (something like 60%
the size of an adult, as compared to 40% for Nano.) Also, as I said
before the general consensus there is that Nanotyrannus is a young rex
or at the very best evidence is still insufficient at present. If you
want to debate this with people who really know what they're talking
about (unlike me, who true to the latter part of my name can only
mimic what I hear from them) you should perhaps join the list (and set
'em straight, if you wish.)
from Gallimimus,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
Hey, I'm just repeating what I heard, which at
the time seemed to make more sense. I was not aware Tinker is smaller than
Nano- the extimates I got were about 17 feet, the same as Nano if it were an
adult, and if it were a juvenile this estimate would change. I also wasn't
sure of location- at the time I was researching this is was for the validity
of Nanotyrannus, not about Tinker. And I'm not using mammals as an analogy-
whoever said this cited crocodiles. I also just find it too hard to believe
that Nanotyrannus teeth just happen to show up in the area. And believe me,
I'm not purposely trying to discredit Nanotyrannus- I like the animal- but I
am very cautious with matters like this because this is an incredibly hyped
dinosaur and good information can be hard to find when it gets like that
(because the general media likes to tell the public what it wantd to hear
regardless of fact.) So I hold evidence for Nanotyrannus to high standards.
If you want to see the source I'm citing, check the DML archives, but many of the
people there are unconvinced of Nano's validity.
I also believed someone before brought up something about a Velociraptor
crest (It's hard to respond when I can't see any of the posts.) I think I
remember something about a crest of some sort preserved with
Sinornithosaurus, but I'd have to check on that.
Also, how did you guys all become friends? I came here with that intention,
because I don't have many people to talk to about dinosaurs, but it's really
hard being new. What should I do?
from Gallimimus,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
Actually, Tyrannosaurus and Nanotyrannus did not
have sets of teeth, with baby and adult characterestics, as mammals do.
Dinosaurs could grow new teeth whenever they wanted to, never needing to even
brush them, as they were far superior to us (not an insult to anyone in
particular).
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 3, 2000
Yes, but if it was an escaped Deinonychus, why
not Deinonychus height graphs? Not that there's really anything wrong with
the story, it just seemed strange.
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 3, 2000
Brad it's me Afton the one who talked to you over
the Summer it looks like some dinosaur fans are'nt talkin anymore well I've
got and learned a lot of stuff about Dinosaurs.
from Afton,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
Wait a minute Levine... I though Tinker was
bigger.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
November 3, 2000
Tinker was around four years old and fully
capable of travelling with his family group. It's unlikely the Nanotyrannus
teeth found actually belonged to him as he was found in a river bed...the
last place for a nest. Really, the people saying Nanotyrannus was T.Rex
should check the facts. Their theories are simply unbelievable, trying to
revive a dying idea. Tinker has proven beyond all doubt that Nanotyrannus
was, infact a different dinosaur.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 2, 2000
Gallimimus, your theory doesn't hold when put to
the test of logic. From what I know, Tinker was smaller and younger than the
oldest and largest Nannotyrannus. He had adult Tyrannosaurus teeth, while the
largest Nannotyrannus did not. For your theory aout Tinker having two sets of
teeth to work, he must have been born with Nannotyrannus teeth, shed them,
grew Tyrannosaurus teeth, shed them again, grow back some more Nannotyrannus
teeth and then shed them for T.rex teeth again. Four sets of teeth in a
lifetime- It makes no sense.
Even so, people say Nanotyrannus was a young rex, then Tinker, being younger
and smaller, should have resembled Nannotyrannus instead of Tyrannosaurus,
but this isn't the case.
Rest assured, the case for Nanotyrannus being a real animal is as real as it
can be.
Any comments? Or rebuttals?
from Levine,
age 24,
?,
?,
?;
November 2, 2000
I don't buy that. Tinker was smaller than a
nanno. So that's why it's impossibe for him to shed nanno teeth. Why would
Tinker being smaller should have nanno teeth, not rex teeth. I suspect Rex
was aready born with adult like teeth, not nanno teeth. Albertosaurus infants
all have adult teeth, I don't see why rex should have to sets, as their
poarents probally brought food for them- they didn't need teeth to catch
insects. It dosent make sense. Anyway, Tinker has many differences with nanno
and was closer to rex. I don't think nanno was a young rex. Tinker was just a
small rex, about a fourth grader in human terms. Prehaps you need to look
harder for evidence for nano being rex.
We shouldn't argue for the sake of an argument. On carefull thinking, Nano
can't be a young rex! If that was true, Tinker should have been found with
nano teeth as he was younger and smaller than the adult nano.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 2, 2000
Hello, all. Before anyone asks, the "Gallimimus"
handle is one I use on other boards and not related to anything on the Voting
section. Anyway, I don't know if anyone's said this already, but on the
Dinosaur Mailing List I came across something interesting regarding the
Nanotyrannus/Tinker debate. While it is true that the teeth differ on the
Tinker specimen from the Nanotyrannus specimen, this doesn't automatically
mean they're different species. As someone on the DML pointed out, when
crocodilians are born they have a set of "baby teeth" similar to nano
dentition, but as they grow these teeth are shed and replaced by adult teeth,
like Tinker's. Advocates of nano and T-rex being different species paint a
scenario in which Tinker is attacked by Nanotyrannuses, who leave behind the
shed teeth at the scene, but it seems to make a lot more sense that the teeth
may have at one point belonged to Tinker (who would have then stayed in the
area for some tim!
e after hatching.) It also seems entirely too coincidental that the one
animal whose teeth we want to compare-Nanotyrannus- just happened to show up
in the vicinity. I was pretty disappointed by this, because I thought
Nanotyrannus a pretty cool critter, but I don't think the evidence looks good
for it. Like I said I didn't get a chance to go through this whole board, so
this might have been said already, and I apologize if it has, but I thought
it was pretty neat. Looking forward to talking with all of you- quite
impressed with what's been said. See, not all us Gallimimuses are bad! (We
just have a lousy public relations guy.)=)
from Gallimimus,
age 75 my,
?,
Gobi Desert,
Mongolia;
November 2, 2000
Some dinosaur colour had turned up in the
fossilized skin. Though we are not sure, we suspect the australian ankylosaur
mini was yellow.
from Honkie Tong,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 2, 2000
I agree Velociraptor with feathers looks wierd.
There is no evidence to support this but paleontology is not about what you
like or expect, but about facts and what really happened.
from Honkie,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 2, 2000
They wanted to know if the animals have
escaped.
from Billy Macdraw,
age 18,
?,
?,
?;
November 2, 2000
Brad, Tell me this WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING
ABOUT YOU'RE SAYING OLD BLOOD!!!!!!!!
from Afton,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 2, 2000
HEY BRAD GUESS WHO'S BACK! IF YOU GUESSED AFTON
YOUR CORRECT IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER ME I'M THE GIRL WHO ALWAYS TALKED TO YOU!
WELL IT LOOKS YOUR GETTING MORE POPULER THAN EVER WELL GOTTA GO SEE YA
BYE!
from Afton,
age 10,
Cameron,
mo.,
U.S.A;
November 2, 2000
Brad, I think your right stegasaurus with
feathers I don't think the worlds ready for it. In a magazine it showed a
Velociraptor with feathers (Iabout threw up when I saw it)
Sheesh
from Afton,
age 10,
Cameron,
?,
?;
November 2, 2000
They do no what some dinosaurs skin colors were
because they dug up fossilized Dino skin.
from Afton L.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 2, 2000
I need to know the dinosaur AISHA. No one knows
whet colors dinosaurs are though.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 2, 2000
I just read the last two chapters of Old Blood.
This just keeps getting better. I liked the Ankylosaurus. Just a small
question- if Truman identified the tracks as Deinonychus, why do they discuss
the height graphs of Velociraptor?
from Brad,
age 13,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 2, 2000
Gosh, Billy, Old Blood is excellent, keep up the
good work! It's just like Jurassic Park but with way cooler dinos! hehe, I
always wished JP'd of had Oviraptors! Giganotosaurus too, wow. Good
job.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 1, 2000
Nevermind...found it...I'm
dumb...hehe.
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 1, 2000
Where is the Vote for your Favorite Dinosaurs
page? I wanna read Old Blood but I can't find it anywhere...
And why are we talking about killing dinosaurs?? hehe just seems like an odd
topic...and I liked Carnivores 2, it was a good game, but its near impossible
to kill a Tyrannosaurus unless you have "flying" enabled and you can hover
over him:)
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 1, 2000
I've added a link above. JC
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