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T-Rex dominates over Allosaurus
carnivore supreme.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
I'm really disgusted at the fact that
people ae going on and on about the T-Rex vs.
Barney.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
"In our hypothetical Tyrannosaurus vs.
Velociraptor battle, what would happen if the 'raptors were able
to puncture the tyrannosaur's head through the antorbital
fenestra?"
Probably nothing too serious. The Tyrannosaurus would be mightly
annoyed though. I've seen a Tyrannosaurus skull with bites from
other Tyrannosaurus in which the rim of the antorbital fenestra
showed damage, with possible penetration to the fenestra (most
adult Tyrannosaurus skulls show some from of antisocial social
interation to quite a severe degree). The Tyrannosaurus didn't
seem too affected by it for the wounds were virtually healed over.
I suppose if Tyrannosaurus could survive braincase penetrations, I
doubt an antorbital fenestra penetration would be serious to it.
Besides, I wonder how are the V.raptors going to go about it? By
stabbing with their sickle claws?
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
"You forgot to say that they are dwarf
elephants. Smaller than usual. And they live mostly in those large
clearings, I've forgotten what they're called."
There were lots of gigantic pachyderm/mammal species way larger
then your african elephant today that lived in thick forests. How
do we know this? Because these animals existed before the
widespread appearance of grasslands as the dominant vegitation.
Besides, I suppose Triceratops could easily live in a forest on
the scale with our modern redwood forests.
from wohooo,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
Hehehe,excuse me for taking the time
to type this message with my large oversized big (*& claws and
saving myself from a hungy Tarbosaurus batar,does anyone
know websites that have Gregory S. Paul skeletal restorations?
Also,wasn't there a therapod,most likely a Dilophosaurus
witherili found in Pennsylvania with possible feathered
intugement?
And Brad,you must be from Dansjp3page.You might as well remember
me as "KillerRaptor".
from Therzinosaurus cheloniformus,
age 17,
Germantown,
TN,
U.S.A.;
November 25, 2001
Velociraptor could kill a rex...... an
_Othnielia rex_. :D
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 25, 2001
"Actually raptors were pretty
unimpressive my modern bird standards. Whoever said they were
anywhere near as smart as primates?"
Raptors: Dromaeosauridae or Falconiformes?
The "smarter than primates" comment was in Jurassic Park
III.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 25, 2001
I don't know Jessica, I haven't read
it! Which dinosaur?
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 25, 2001
In our hypothetical Tyrannosaurus vs.
Velociraptor battle, what would happen if the 'raptors were able
to puncture the tyrannosaur's head through the antorbital
fenestra?
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 25, 2001
Allosaurus iS NOT weak. It is the king
of the Jurassic!!!
But it cannot beat T-rex.
from AlloRex,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
"I'm doing areport on dinosaurs. Do
you think I'll get an A+?"
Depends, if you know a lot about dinosaurs.
from Gianna,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
I'm doing areport on a dinosaur. Do
you think I'll get an A+?
from jessica,
age 9,
Saratoga springs,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
JC - I posted a long post about
elephants... did it not get through? Or is it delayed? Just
wondering...
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
If it's not posted below, let me know. JC
Who was I agreeing with? Can't
remember. I agree, but who with... argh, the hell with it.
I am trustable! Woooohoo! I think 90% of the regulars here are
trustable. And I've heard of those cronomagnometers or whatever,
what the Russians and Americans have. Yeh... But in the end, your
dad says that N Z was not in the antarctic circle? Cause most of
it was... betta go now. Why is my WCW so DELAYED! I HAVE NO TIME!
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH!
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
"BARNEY COOD KIK ANY DINOS ()* ANY
DAY!!!
tELL U Wot. FORGET ALL OF THIS DINO STUFF AND GET BACK TO THE REAL
WORLD!!! YEAH, DINOS ROOL OR DID, BUT THEY RN'T AROUND ANY MORE.
GET A SK8 BOARD AND GET WITH IT.
Stop embarassing yourself and me, Keiran. Come here only if you
wish to talk about dinosaurs.
from Kieran ( kING edWARDZ 5 WAYZ), age 14, Birmingham, )(*& hole,
England; November 24, 2001"
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
"Trikes are big, bulky animals. I
can't imagine them living in a dense forest."
I can. Even today there are some pretty large elephants living in
dense jungle on the island of Borneo in the Pacific. Inspite of
how thick those forests are, the elephants can still move pretty
fast when angry."
You forgot to say that they are dwarf elephants. Smaller than
usual. And they live mostly in those large clearings, I've
forgotten what they're called.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
Try not to use your "sense of humour"
here Keiran.
Forget my nomen nudum joke. Like I never posted it...
It's for your game right? Find out about "rexes and raptors" on
this site. Go on the genus index. And don't go fooling around
here...
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
Allosaurus is weak.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
Those who think that Barney is anywhat
of a real dinosaur have serious problems with reality. Barney is
actually a man-altered raptor trying to be a Albertosaurus, coming
up with an utterly horrible creation...well...raptors always were
lame and useless anyway. Can't even kill a Tenontosaur without 4
losses...dun like these natural-born losers man...sickle claws?
deadly? harh!
from Anti-Barney-Club,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
"Nomen NUDUM!
Don't post it if you think it is going too far, JC."
As much as I tried to laugh...I could not...
Sarz Honkie, but you're too serious. I am not saying that you do
not have a sense of humour, but that joke is a bit... ah... It's
not for serious people... Making dino jokes isn't exactly
EASY...
from Honkie Tong, age 17, ?, ?, ?; November 23, 2001"
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
Beside Tyrannosaurus rex, Allosaurus
was the ULTIMATE LOSER (tm.)
from Cool!,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
Keiran. Jesus, I never thought...
You where a real surprise. You just... very explosively entered
and started revealing stuff about me. Da masta prides himself in
his secrecy. Like solid snake or something. I didn't want a name
or any identity here. I wanted to just BE here. And YOU just came
in like, ah hello Tom, how's going, just had your em@il, how's
greg's flirting, how's da hot date going on etc. I don't like it.
Why did you reveal me?!? And what you said is... Jeez, I'll just
leave it to the regulars to sort you out...
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
"on the Island of Borneo on the
Pacific."
That's a good point you made, but just to tell you, Borneo is not
in the Pacific, it's in the South China Sea. But I guess you could
consider that the Pacific...
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
Hey, Brad. Good point. But even the
melting of the polar Ice caps wouldn't be enough to flood land 20
miles inland much less an entire continent.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
Actually raptors were pretty
unimpressive my modern bird standards. Whoever said they were
anywhere near as smart as primates?
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
"By the way jenya- ive jumped in 2 the
pool on warpath"
Uh huh... know why nobody is impressed Kieran? Because your "war"
is to nonsensical for even to most desperate compy fan to take
side with.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
"So many people here are getting bad
impressions of Allosaurus, just because of that damn WWD Big Al
program. Wounds do get infected and go septic. Just because a T-
Rex had a broken rib and leg and survived doesn't mean that he was
OK. He would be thin, battered, starving, slow, parasite ridden,
ragged, not the indestructible killing machine that Rex fans see
in him. Just becayse there are wounds with signs of healing on
skeletons does not mean that the Rex didn't even feel anything.
And I know I'm gonna get swarmed by Rex fans, but I'm ready. I'm
sure Tim and Brad would agree. And Tom... Gianna, T-master...
Honkie? dare I dream?"
Who ever said T.rex was invulnerable? It's simply said that T.rex
is considerably tougher then your typical Allosaurid design.
There's some reason to believe that T.rex would be largely
resistant to getting septic wounds though, for it has the
specialized ability to inflict septic bites, along which comes to
ability to be largely immune to infection (if not T.rex would be
pretty dead everytime he cut his gum or got bitten by another
T.rex). But all in all, it's rather obvious T.rex is going to be
more redundant and resistant to damage then Allosaurus, meaning he
could take a greater licking and still keep on ticking.(Sounds
extremely familiar, where did that come from?) Which animal,
taking some serious injury, would not have its ability to hunt
compromised? What we are stating here is that T.rex could take and
recover from mishaps that would generally have killed your
Allosaur a long time ago. Injuries found on Tyrannosaurid fossils
are generally more serious and extensive then what you'd expect for your dinosaur. It's pretty safe to assume
a healthy T.rex would be extensively parasite-ridden, given their
specialized septic abilities. T.rex was tough, he was made that
way.
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
do any of you know how to get a
picture on the art section?
from Joseph H.,
age 10,
Oviedo,
FL,
USA;
November 25, 2001
Brad,When I made my theory I thought
of that and have a sence making answer to how our ancesters,
mammals would survivve but I'm to embarresed to type
it.
from Joseph H,
age 10,
Oviedo,
Fl,
USA;
November 25, 2001
I doubt Barney could kill T.rex. The
last I heard, the guy almost died when the fan inside his costume
died. Besides, Barney was a child's program, thus Barney was
designed with nothing sharp or mean that might accidently hurt
children (fer goodness sakes! The Triceratops' horns were made of
foam!) and teeth his are nothing but an odd-looking wall of foam
anyway. I seriously doubt something like Barney could kill T.rex.
Barney is nothing but a stuff toy brought to life via the
imagination of a few children (some of who are now teenagers and
severly regretting their involvement in such a infantile project).
I think the kids would run off on seeing a real Tyrannosaur...or
at least dump Barney to side with the REAL dinosaur. In anycase,
Barney would be in his stuff-toy state, slightly less dangerous
then tickle-me elmo and of passing interest to the Tyrannosaurus.
Prehaps the Patch Cabbage toys would have some semblance of a
chance...at least they can !
really chew.
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
November 25, 2001
I'm not going to be on here for about
5 days (unless I go on in the morning) because I have
camp!
from Tom G,
age ?,
?,
?,
!!!!!;
November 25, 2001
Can someone say if the thing about the
study my dad did is right or have there been new things discovered
to prove it wrong.
from Tom G,
age ?,
etshma,
orocandmle,
aotearoa;
November 24, 2001
Kieran theres a problem with your
fight between T Rex and Barney. Barney could not bite T Rex's arms
off because barneys teeth arn't real. They are made out of
material and Barney is just a person inside a stupid
costume
from Tom G,
age ?,
wopuldn't you like to know,
?,
somewhere in the south pacific;
November 24, 2001
Skeptic, Thunderbird, Bob (the
Spinosaur Fan from the summer), Allosaurischian, the Honkie Tong
impresonators, and all the Allosaur cultists.....
They are all the same.
from Skeptic,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 24, 2001
"Trikes are big, bulky animals. I
can't imagine them living in a dense forest."
I can. Even today there are some pretty large elephants living in
dense jungle on the island of Borneo in the Pacific. Inspite of
how thick those forests are, the elephants can still move pretty
fast when angry.
from Skeptic,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 24, 2001
"Other things like fish and sharks
don't need air".
Yes they do. They wimply take it in through a complex process
involving their gills.
from Skeptic,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 24, 2001
I can't find the Carnotaurus
story.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 24, 2001
I just uploaded it. JC
I can't really see flooding as a
theory for dinosaur extinction (if that is what Joseph is
suggesting, I'm not sure). There were sea creatures that went
extinct (like mosasaurs and plesiosaurs). The crocodiles and
turtles need dry land to lay their eggs. And I don't see how our
own ancestors, the mammals, would survive!
Potentially dumb question: Is there enough water on the Earth for
complete global flooding deep enough to drown the dinosaurs? In
the movie Waterworld the world is flooded by melting the polar ice
caps, but there were no ice caps in the Mesozoic (or at least
parts of it)... so where is all of this extra water going to come
from?
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 24, 2001
Tom G. Your right but ever since I saw
this picture of dinos and other reptiles in a huge flood. Now, I
did think about that a while ago. Crocodiles and alligaters and
turtles are more the animals that stay at the surface and would be
able to get to the top easily. Other things like fish and sharks
you know don't need air.
from Joseph H.,
age 10,
Oviedo,
Fl.,
USA;
November 24, 2001
"Is that sarcasm? Or not?"
Uh, no.
from AlloRex,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 24, 2001
Chapter II of The Carnotaurus Story is
here!
from Shane S.,
age 1000,
nowhere,
??????????,
??????;
November 24, 2001
I suppose I like Megaraptor, though
there really isn't much to say about it. It's known from a big
claw, and a few foot and arm elements- not really enough to make
any guesses about behaviour, or even know what the animal looked
like. I don't see why raptors (either Dromaeosauridae or
Falconiformes) should be called the smartest dinosaurs. Primates
and raptors wouldn't need the same kind of intelligence, and their
intelligence is probably just not comparable. But don't forget,
we are primates too!
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 24, 2001
Shane S. I read your stories and they
are really good apart from how you have dinosaurs from different
places and different times in it like how the Giganotosaurus kills
a Muttaburrasaurus which lives in Australia. And how you have
Baryonyx in the Utahraptor story. But apart from that they are
really good
from Tom G,
age ?,
wouldn't you like to know,
?,
Land of the long white cloud;
November 24, 2001
Hey all you Megaraptor fans come talk
to me tell me what you know unless I already know Mega raptor is
the coolest of dinos I like all raptors because they are the
fiercest and smartest species of dinos of all time they are
smarter than primates.
from ToreyC,
age 10,
Charlotte,
NC,
US;
November 24, 2001
Right. Now to put things straight. Tag
match. Barney, a compsognathus and a farting fairy VERSUS a Rex,
Raptor and a spinosaurus.
Round 1. Rex vs Barney.
"fight"
Round 2 Raptor Vs Compi.
The raptor lunges in, grabs compi, but the farting fairy lets off
one,the gas fills the room, knoking out all oponents. Barney,
Compi and Farting fairy win!!!!!!
YAY!!!!!
Rex circles barney, what a menace, Oh my god, he lunges in for an
attack, but barney is singing....
"you love me, we are one big family"
... and the rex falls asleep. Barney bites the rexes arm off and
smacks him one in the head.
Barney tags compsognathus(here on called Compi) in. The Rex gets
up, armless, compi runs in, and the rex kicks him away!!!! Oh
god!!!! but compi is ok, runs in and....WOW, hes bitten rexes
heels off!!!!
from kieran- the offensive (ke5wayz),
age 14,
Birmingham,
The )(*&hole,
England;
November 24, 2001
BARNEY COOD KIK ANY DINOS ()* ANY
DAY!!!
tELL U Wot. FORGET ALL OF THIS DINO STUFF AND GET BACK TO THE
REAL WORLD!!! YEAH, DINOS ROOL OR DID, BUT THEY RN'T AROUND ANY
MORE. GET A SK8 BOARD AND GET WITH IT.
from Kieran ( kING edWARDZ 5 WAYZ),
age 14,
Birmingham,
)(*& hole,
England;
November 24, 2001
did yall miss me? i dont think its
fair to see who would win Rex vs Al, because by the time Rex came
along, Al was long dead.
By the way, in the video game Dino Crisis 1, what are those big
blue dinosaurs with the long arms and claws. I thought they were
Allosauruses, but they were too small.
from Shane S.,
age 1000,
nowhere,
??????????,
??????;
November 24, 2001
The strangest thing in Big Al was when
the pack of allosaurs surrounded a large diplodocid... and waited
for tmhe sun to kill it. That could be where the weak Allosaurus
theory comes from.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 24, 2001
"So many people here are getting bad
impressions of Allosaurus, just because of that damn WWD Big Al
program. Wounds do get infected and go septic. Just because a T-
Rex had a broken rib and leg and survived doesn't mean that he was
OK. He would be thin, battered, starving, slow, parasite ridden,
ragged, not the indestructible killing machine that Rex fans see
in him. Just becayse there are wounds with signs of healing on
skeletons does not mean that the Rex didn't even feel anything.
And I know I'm gonna get swarmed by Rex fans, but I'm ready. I'm
sure Tim and Brad would agree. And Tom... Gianna, T-master...
Honkie? dare I dream?"
I couldn't agree more. But I havn't seen "the ballard of Big AL"
so I don't know why people get bad impressions from it.
Brad I like that picture of yours that shows the Sarcosuchus being
eaten by Carcharodontosaurus.
from Tom G,
age ?,
Wouldn't you like to know,
?,
?;
November 24, 2001
Here we have it the fight you have all
been waiting for!!!!!!!! In the Red corner we have
BARNEY!!!!!!!!!!! In the Blue corner we have an ALBERTOSAURUS!!!!
Now LEETSS GEETTT REEEAAAADDDDDY TOOOO RUUUUMMMMBLEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Barney:I love you you love me
And Albertosaurus WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Albertosaurus:DIE 9#@&% (bites barnyes head of)
Barney: Were a happy argh
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 24, 2001
"Nomen NUDUM!
Don't post it if you think it is going too far, JC."
As much as I tried to laugh...I could not...
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
Ankylosaurus would not have eaten
grass, because grass did not exist in the
Cretaceous.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 23, 2001
The Dinosaur Story saga continues with
Chapter I of The Carnotaurus Story.
from Shane S.,
age 1000,
nowhere,
??????????,
??????;
November 23, 2001
Paranoyd Child-Begone from these
boards. You are annoying. And stupid. Barney's not on this because
he's FAKE. Besides, who's heard of a man sized-friendly
Albertosaur? Signing off, Alpha Male.
from Alpha Male Deinonychus,
age 9,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
immmmmm baaaaaaaaaack!
from Shane S.,
age 1000,
nowhere,
??????????,
??????;
November 23, 2001
Why R we talking about which dino will
kill which dino? We should like the dino for what it is, not who
its better than. My fav. is Utah Raptor, not because it could kill
Rex (which I doubt it could).
Things sure have changed around here; in the future we'll need
passwords? No one can trust anyone here anymore.
We should stick to the facts, after all, isn't that is what this
forum is about; stating opinions and learning more about these
fasinating creatures?
from Katie V.,
age 14,
Tabernacle,
NJ,
U.S.A.;
November 23, 2001
Hi Jenja/da masta/wotever
Tell me why isnt barney on this dino site?????
Also, i need info on raptors & rexes- dont ask
cheerz
kizza
from kizza(kieran- ke5wayz),
age 14,
Birmingham,
The _(*hole,
England;
November 23, 2001
Compsnagathus thing cood kik da rexes
(*& any day, hell, 1 comp-thingy could take on a whole load of
rexes.
Why dont u ever have barney on your site- or jumpin baths?Then it
would kik &^%.
By the way jenya- ive jumped in 2 the pool on warpath
L8r doodz
kizza
from Kieran - ke5wayz,
age 14,
brum,
)(*&hole,
england;
November 23, 2001
"Ankylosaurus probably ate low-lying
shrubs and grass.
Ok now I'm confused. I asked my dad if New Zealand was below the
antarctic cicle and it turns out that he knows heaps about it.
Here is what he says.
Now I don't know whether to belive what Tim M, Da Masta and
Walking with dinosaurs say or whether to belive what my dad
says.
New Zealand was connected to Australia, and part of it was below
the Antarctic circle."
In 1978 I was part of an expedition from my Universtity in
Wellington New Zealand to the trans-antartic mountains in the
lower Ross Sea Region of Antarctic - now about 80 degrees south.
This was shortly after the first dinosaur fossil bones had been
found in the region, along with lots of "lush" vergetation fossils
around 180m years old. Our aim was to try and figure out if that
part of GondwanaLand had been at its present position, and there
the climate must have been much warmer, or if the whole land mass
had been further north. We did this by taking small core samples
(10cm long by 2cm wide) of the rock near the fossils, and taking
careful measurements by the alignment of the sun and time to get
the exact orientation of the rock sample. We took some 1000
samples and I took these to Flagstaff Arizona where the US
Geological Survey had a machine (1 of only two in the world then -
the Russians had the other)called a cryogenic magnetometer that
could measure very very weak magnetic fields by cooling the sample to near absolute zero. By
measuring the alignment of the magnetic field (called the magnetic
dip) we could figure out what latitude the rock was at at the time
it was heated and cooled by the nearby lava flows that came with
the volcanic activity that happened as Gondwana Land broke up into
pieces (and formed Australia, NZ, India etc). The realignment of
the magnetic field lines happens when any magnet is heated to a
certain temperature. Well, what we figured out was that this area
of the mountains was at about 35 degrees south at that time.
Gondwana Land was probably drifting slowly south at the time.
However we only got good results from about 8 of the 1000 samples
(the others had been heated too much by the lava, or not enough to
cause realignment at 180m yrs - the rock was actually much older).
For the next few years other scientists continued this work, but I
moved into another field and lost touch with the research. So, in
my experience anyway, I would say New Zealand was probably not in the
Antarctic circle in the early Cretaceous. But I could be wrong
and there may be new facts I don't know about! Peter G.
from Tom G,
age 12,
?,
?,
New Zealand;
November 23, 2001
Ankylosaurus probably ate low-lying
shrubs and grass.
New Zealand was connected to Australia, and part of it was below
the Antarctic circle.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
T.Rex beats just about any other dino
competetor fair and square.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
"I beg to differ,Its brain may have
been the largest but the brain to body ratio seems to influence
animal inteligence,more than the size of that brain. The
Troodontids and Dromeosaurs had the largest brain to body
ratio.(Scientific American Book of Dinosaurs)"
What is do you differ about in my post? I merely stated the fact
the T.rex has the largest brain of any dinosaur, not the largest
brain to body ratio. So you do not differ, but in actuality agree
with me. Or do you disagree that T.rex had the largest brain of
any dinosaur?
I do not disagree with what was stated,just what was implied,that
T rex was the most intelligent BECAUSE it had the largest
brain.
from Phoenix,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
Actually, intelligence is sometimes
seen as how "supple" the animal is (we tend to think faster
animals are somehow smarter). Having a high brain to body ratio
means you have a higher neuron to muscle ratio, allowing you to be
more agile and supple. But if you are wondering if that's a
measure of intelligence as in "humanly" intelligence, brain to
body weight ratio is hardly a way to go, if not, certain species
of animals would be considered more intelligent then us humans!
The structure of the brain matters drastically, as in how complex
and advanced the brain is, and how much is really devoted to
complex thinking, which is not really alot in most animals. In
terms of "human" intelligence, Tyrannosaurus was probably on-par,
if not superior to the raptors, given his more complex brain and
better system resources due to the larger size.
The structure of an animals brain DOES factor in determining a its
intelligence,however ,nearly half of T.rex's brain was used for
sensory reception,it also lacked to complex folds and crevises of
todays "inteligent" animals, the Hominids and cetacea.(these folds
increase the surface area of the brain drastically,giving more
room for nurons) take a look at the below link.Also if the brain
to body ratio is low, it forces the brain to uses more of its
nurons for body functions,cutting down on the number that can be
used for "thinking"
However what this really seems to be is a debate over which was
smarter and could kill the other...something that really is quite
pointless to argue.
However becasue I am unable to cite my sources (something that is
extreamly important in scientific debates) I will continue no
further into this.Perhaps when I find a nice PDF paper from a
reputable sorce I will return to "spar" with you,until then best
dinosaur wishes!
http://www.seismosaur.com/Brain.jpg
T rex intelligence was probably on par with modern ground running
birds,not terrible intelgent creatures when it come to thought but
still fairly smart.
If I am able to find a cast of a dromeosaurid skull I will post
it,however just from what I have read the dromeosaurid brain
cavity is not only larger proportunatly,but has a larger
percentage of its brain dedicated to thinking(however it still
only compares to modern theropods not chimpanzee intelligence
here).
from Phoenix,
age 16,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
One last post today! - what do you
call a dino porn star (Get no ideas, I don't like it and I'm not
saying that it is good and you should see it, etc.)
Nomen NUDUM!
Don't post it if you think it is going too far, JC.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
You're certainly pushing the limit. JC
"Oh, well, fine, I'm not posting
anything here for a while. Because now I suppose I'm wrong about
everything"
Choo MEAN? Your hardly ever wrong! Don't let the REALLY Fanatical
fans overwhelm you! Fight! Grrrrrrrrrr...
OK, now I'll stop posting messages, for today. I'm only human, and
I get real tired doing this after a few hours. And I wanna write
WCW dinoz... heavyweights fighting today are Sue vs Firestorm...
but never assume anything, you never know exactly WHAT will
happen...
And casualties are rare by the way. You'll soon get to know all
the dinoz in it...
Also, Big Poppa Crunch (the rex chosen to the fight the spino)
will be fighting whirlwind, (who gets body armour. And 30% of the
fans.) It's only fiction by the way, too, so don't get too hot...
maybe 5% is more realistic, but still...
Episode 2's star special match is Copperjaw (who is fighting for
the U.S. title in episode 1) vs. An Allosaur, not yet
chosen...
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
I'm confused. Wasn't sean a priest of
the rex church?
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
Honkie, was that REALLY your
girlfreind? I never imagined you like that.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
"Dinosaurs have been around for 230
million years and are still going strong!
Sorry, my brain is a bit of a mess. Brad is right. 256 mya is when
the triassic started...
from Brad"
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
"HOW LONG DID DINOSAURS LIVE"
256 million years. A damn long time. Oh yeah...
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
"Allosaurus has two letter "L"s in it.
L is reat for making words like Laughable, Lame and Loser.
Take a close look at your name please. 3 l's. Laughable, lame,
loser. No offense, just I wanna get something straight. Allosaurus
is not a wimp. Either is T - Rex.
from LiLLy, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 19, 2001"
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
"ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CLARITY OF MY
POSTS?"
Argh...too many inapporiate caps...too bright...subject is not
clear..."
Specify. What do you want me to tell you?
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
The masta will now try to answer
everything!
"All of you people are lame!!!!! why do you care?!"
You don't like it; go away!
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
So many people here are getting bad
impressions of Allosaurus, just because of that damn WWD Big Al
program. Wounds do get infected and go septic. Just because a T-
Rex had a broken rib and leg and survived doesn't mean that he was
OK. He would be thin, battered, starving, slow, parasite ridden,
ragged, not the indestructible killing machine that Rex fans see
in him. Just becayse there are wounds with signs of healing on
skeletons does not mean that the Rex didn't even feel anything.
And I know I'm gonna get swarmed by Rex fans, but I'm ready. I'm
sure Tim and Brad would agree. And Tom... Gianna, T-master...
Honkie? dare I dream?
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
Does anyone else like to watch
Discovery's "The Bonehead Detectives of the Paleoworld"? It has
many interviews with famous paleontologists. (Bakker still holds
onto his Migrating Disease extinction theory.)
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 23, 2001
I really like Tom's new drawings. The
pose and perspective on that Dilophosaurus is really cool. It's
always great when paleoartists don't just draw the side of a
dinosaur.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 23, 2001
"I'd imagine Triceratops living in
open plains. If you observe modernday creatures you see that none
of te large Pachyderms live in forests. The Tapir lives in forests
but its not very big. I think animals like Triceratops would have
lived in Savanna like landscapes."
Actually, there are dwarf elephants that live in forests, but yes.
Trikes would have cought their frills in vegetation,
etc.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
"I have a few questions (they are not
trivia questions). What kind of plants did Anklyosaurus eat?. Was
New Zealand connected to Australia in the Early-Middle Cretaceous
or was it a seperate island? And was New Zealand inside the
antartic circle in the early-middle cretaceous?"
Sure. Ankylosaurs wheren't choosy eaters, they'd eat anything
they could reach (up to about 2.5m off the ground.) Any low -
growing vegetation. New Zealand was connected to western
Australia, which was connected to Antarctica. And yes, I think N Z
was inside the antarctic circle, but it wouldn't have been that
cold; warm equatorial currents would have flowed into the polar
regions warming them up.
from da masta,
age 14,
Choo wanna know for?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
The reason why these V.raptors vs.
T.rex debate is hardly a challange is because while we struggle to
find out what exactly the V.raptors can do to T.rex to hurt him,
we find that question is extremely easly to answer vice versa for
the T.rex.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
"I beg to differ,Its brain may have
been the largest but the brain to body ratio seems to influence
animal inteligence,more than the size of that brain. The
Troodontids and Dromeosaurs had the largest brain to body
ratio.(Scientific American Book of Dinosaurs)"
Actually, intelligence is sometimes seen as how "supple" the
animal is (we tend to think faster animals are somehow smarter).
Having a high brain to body ratio means you have a higher neuron
to muscle ratio, allowing you to be more agile and supple. But if
you are wondering if that's a measure of intelligence as in
"humanly" intelligence, brain to body weight ratio is hardly a way
to go, if not, certain species of animals would be considered more
intelligent then us humans! The structure of the brain matters
drastically, as in how complex and advanced the brain is, and how
much is really devoted to complex thinking, which is not really
alot in most animals. In terms of "human" intelligence,
Tyrannosaurus was probably on-par, if not superior to the raptors,
given his more complex brain and better system resources due to
the larger size.
Besides, I doubt "human" type intelligence plays a large factor in
these dinofights. Dinosaur intelligence, which exceptional for
reptiles, are still pretty moderate for the advanced reptiles aka.
birds of today. So we won't see raptors coming up with traps and
plans. Intellignce was possesed by both animals only enough to get
through their lives problems, not really affording them with a
significant advantage in this kind of engagement (though in a
fight between Tyrannosaurus and Allosaurus, this kind of
intelligence will be certainly be shown). I think the advantages
really afforded by Velociraptor's high EQ was enhanced agility,
necessary for him to have a chance of survivng against
Tyrannosaurus. Tyrannosaurus' brain was also big to give him
enhanced agility for his size, but the real advantage came in the
senses for he had far larger and more developed areas in his brain
for dealing with sensory information. He could smell better, hear
better and see better then the Velociraptors.
from Leonard,
age 14,
?,
?,
?;
November 23, 2001
"If Tyrannosaurus lowers his mouth to
the ground to take a bite out of one Velociraptor, could the rest
of the pack jump onto the tyrannosaur's head and start slashing at
the nose and eyes? That kind of damage would affect rex's ability
to survive."
I've considered that possibility. But given the fact that a hit to
the nose is mainly superfical (most of T.rex's important smelling
equipment is buried safely within his skull) and most probably
insignificant, unless the Velociraptors are intentionally trying
to pick T.rex's nose, which I doubt its possible. Tyrannsaur eyes
are also recessed to protect them from damage when attack prey
with the head. Besides, I'm pretty sure the Tyrannosaur would
dislodge the Velociraptors off quite easily with a quick shake of
the head, and the resulting fall would be very bad for the
Velociraptor. The head is a hard target hard for the Velociraptors
to cause serious damage unless they get the eyes, which is quite
unlikely. On the other hand, I think the Velociraptors would be
scattering from the Tyrannosaur's head whenever it lowers it's
head to the ground to strike, rather then running towards it and
trying to clamber onto it! I would if I was a
Velociraptor!
from Leonard,
age 14,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
Joseph H, about your extinction
theory. If there was a big flood and sea reptiles died from not
going to the surface quick enough it would maen that crocodiles
and turtles would die from not going to the surface quick enough
aswell.
from Tom G,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
I have a few questions (they are not
trivia questions). What kind of plants did Anklyosaurus eat?. Was
New Zealand connected to Australia in the Early-Middle Cretaceous
or was it a seperate island? And was New Zealand inside the
antartic circle in the early-middle cretaceous?
from Tom G,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
"I beg to differ,Its brain may have
been the largest but the brain to body ratio seems to influence
animal inteligence,more than the size of that brain. The
Troodontids and Dromeosaurs had the largest brain to body
ratio.(Scientific American Book of Dinosaurs)"
What is do you differ about in my post? I merely stated the fact
the T.rex has the largest brain of any dinosaur, not the largest
brain to body ratio. So you do not differ, but in actuality agree
with me. Or do you disagree that T.rex had the largest brain of
any dinosaur?
from Ten-Shun,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
Hi all, I'm new here but I love
dinosaurs, always have. Anyway, my thoughts on dino's extinction
is wierd. I think that it was some kind of flood. I mean all the
water would drown the dinosaurs. The other reptiles is sorted. The
flying ones could fly over the water but would eventully have to
eat and would die of hunger. The swimming ones would need air and
the waters would be too high for them to get up in time.
Obviously, it was have to be a world wide flood.
from Joseph H.,
age 10,
Oviedo,
Fl,
USA;
November 22, 2001
I belive I've seen you there as
well!
I'm just trying to get more people interested in
Paleontology,instead of JP dogma...I doubt I'll be here often
though.
from Phoenix,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
Phoenix: Welcome to DinoTalk! There
have been depressing periods in this site's history, but its
usually a good place to discuss dinosaurs. We all know that
Tyrannosaurus and Velociraptor never fought, but it just keeps
being brought up! I'm not sure what kind of hypotetical situation
this is, but I think the rex and the 'raptors have somehow been
engineered to instictively try to kill each other. :) And I don't
think the 'raptors would win, I just wonder if its possible.
Go ahead and leave if you want to. We'll talk at
Gondolend.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 22, 2001
You're right, 'raptors wouldn't drive
the entire length of their claws into prey. Forget about that.
If Tyrannosaurus lowers his mouth to the ground to take a bite out
of one Velociraptor, could the rest of the pack jump onto the
tyrannosaur's head and start slashing at the nose and eyes? That
kind of damage would affect rex's ability to
survive.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
November 22, 2001
Ekk!!!,I remember seeing a link to
this site on my Earth Science teachers web site last year..It
really is quite depressing.There are quite a few misconceptions
floating around here; I hope to clear some of these up.
"Why are people saying that Velociraptor could do no damage at all
to Tyrannosaurus? Would Tyrannosaurus not bleed from cuts that
were 10 cm deep? How thick is tyrannosaur skin?"
We can't be sure. Pretty thick I should imagine. Whale sharks have
18cm thick skin, humans just less a millimeter. No more than 5cm
for T - Rex though, I think''
Not only can skin thickness not be determined from fossilized
imprints,but these two animals never would have met in real life.
V.mongoliensis was found in Mongolia and T.rex in western North
America.Even in a hypothetical situation these two probably would
not have encountered each other.V.mongoliensis was only 6' long
and very lightly built,in life it could not have weighed over
120lbs. T.rex was well over 35' long and had very stout
bones,today predators with this much differance in body build to
not trade blows.
"Here you are plain wrong, R-O-N-G, wrong. Studies conducted on
Stan the T.rex, which boasts the most complete skull of any other
tyrannosaur specimen, indicate that T.rex actually had the largest
brain of ANY dinosaur. Twice the size of its more primitive
conspecifics (such as Giganotosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus), and
that's excluding the olfactory lobe"
I beg to differ,Its brain may have been the largest but the brain
to body ratio seems to influence animal inteligence,more than the
size of that brain. The Troodontids and Dromeosaurs had the
largest brain to body ratio.(Scientific American Book of
Dinosaurs)
"And Velociraptor probably couldn't open doors. Its hands did not
move the way shown in JP.''
Mmmmmm. The maniraptora are distinguished by a moon shaped bone in
the wrist that I think help the wrist to be flexible. They in
theory, could open doors, but I think that they lack the
intelligence to do so.
The Maniraptors DO have simi lunate carple(wrist) bones,however
this feature is also shared with their closest relatives the Aves.
This set up makes it impossible for maniraptors to pronate(face
the hands downward like in JP) the hands,instead they were held
like a bird wing is,with the palms facing inward.
anyhow,I'll end my ranting and leave you children to fight,however
if any of you are truely interested in the science of paleontology
come by my website and I'll show you some VERY good places to
start on the internet.
This is probably true,I'll explain later
http://www.corona_borealis.homestead.com/home.html
from Phoenix,
age 16,
?,
?,
US;
November 22, 2001
"Why are people saying that
Velociraptor could do no damage at all to Tyrannosaurus? Would
Tyrannosaurus not bleed from cuts that were 10 cm deep? How thick
is tyrannosaur skin?"
I'm pretty sure if a hamster bit me I would bleed (trust me I
know). But I would probably have to take quite a large amount of
hamster bites before I die. Besides, I seriously wonder how would
the Velociraptors use their sickle claws. Slashing action is done
with the tip, so any cut would hardly be 10 cm deep. On the other
hand, what parts of a Tyrannosaur would be convient for them to
strike? The leg? That's fine, but pretty hard to do. If they are
on the Tyrannosaur (a very unlikely situtation), I would assume
they will be using their sickle claws to grapple. But a kick in
any case will not cause a 10 centimeter wound. That would involve
burying the claw to the hilt, which would be more of a stab then a
kick (not possible given the claw's cresent shape) Unless the
Tyrannosaurus is denuded of a large area of his skin, I doubt he
would be seriously affected by anything a group of Velociraptors
could throw. The Velociraptors are unable to employ most of their
weapons on the Tyrannosaurus anyway, being at down at its feet. I suppose they could
try striking at a Tyrannosaur's feet, but that would be next to
impossible to hit or injure seriously, when it's moving (I doubt
the Tyrannosaur would allow Velociraptor/s to have an easy go at
it's feet by just standing there), and a kick from a Tyrannosaur
foot, intentional or not, would put a Velociraptor well out of the
fight. The only chance the Velociraptors will have of coming close
to threatening the Tyrannosaur would be to swarm it. But that in
itsef is extremely risky, and a fall or a slip would prove fatal.
And getting onto the Tyrannosaur itself would be a problem. They
certainly can't just leap onto the Tyrannosaur or scale it like a
cat, raptors don't look like great climbers to me and the
Tyrannosaur is too big and tall that they can't jump onto it (even
if they could jump up six feet, which I suspect is a high
estimate). And I doubt the Tyrannosaur would make it easy for it
too. As long as the Velociraptors are on the ground, which they are going to stay, they
really can't do anything much at all, and instead are completey at
risk of being smited by a jaw or a Tyrannosaur foot. They can't
have any real chance, no matter how slim it may be, unless things
were going very badly for the Tyrannosaur. In an engagement
between a group of 100 velociraptors and one Tyrannosaurus, I
think the Velociraptors will take serious losses without doing
much to the Tyrannosaur until their number is so depleted that
they cease to exist as a viable threat to a Tyrannosaurus, which
chases them away. Heck, I think a Tyrannosaur could chase away 100
Velociraptor, pretty much like a lion scattering
jackals.
from Mac,
age 15,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
"Trikes are big bulky animals. I can't
image them living in dense forests."
Why not? Elephants do it all the time. In fact, many now-extinct
elephants were considerably larger then todays' species, and they
lived in dense forests.
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
"Why are people saying that
Velociraptor could do no damage at all to Tyrannosaurus? Would
Tyrannosaurus not bleed from cuts that were 10 cm deep? How thick
is tyrannosaur skin?"
Hmm, there's where the problem is. (I seriously doubt Velociraptor
could inflict 10 cm deep wounds by the way, it would mean burying
to sickle claw to the hilt, which is hardly possible. A gash is
more likely.) Even if they can penetrate the Tyrannosaur skin,
it'll pretty much as revelant to a T.rex as a papercut is to us.
Another problem is, I wonder how are they going to really hurt the
T.rex? By swarming it like ants and climbing all over it? It would
seem to me that the only acess to T.rexes' body would be by
climbing up the legs, and I seriously doubt Velociraptor had
sufficent jump capacity to reach 13 feet up where they can get an
optinmal hold. Scaling the Tyrannosaur leg like a tree would not
be a really good option to me either. I doubt raptors are any sort
of good climbers, certainly not on a moving Tyrannosaur. So
they'll be restricted to engaging Tyrannosaurus on the ground.
Which is kinda bad, because they can't really do much besides
dodge the Tyrannosaur. A Velociraptor is kinda like a nasty cat when threatened, but hardly
what we can consider deadily enough even in masses to threaten a
Tyrannosaur. Horner has proposed that small, dog-sized "raptors"
in packs of seven could kill large prey like Anatotitan or
Triceratops, but that's Horner. Despite being mean for their size,
Velociraptors aren't really a threat to very much larger animals
at all.
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
I was in Grade 6 a few years
ago.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
We've found a skin print of T-Rex, so
we know that the skin had a pebbly texture, but this doesn't
really tell us much about the thickness of its skin. Whales have
thick skin to keep them warm in the water, so T-Rex wouldn't need
that. I'd say not more than 5 cm
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
I'd imagine Triceratops living in open
plains. If you observe modernday creatures you see that none of te
large Pachyderms live in forests. The Tapir lives in forests but
its not very big. I think animals like Triceratops would have
lived in Savanna like landscapes.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
Kylie, look at this forum a few weeks
earlier to see my and Tim M's extinction theories. I am about 110%
certain they are quite accurate.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
JC, when Brad put up
Pterodata
You could click on it and you would be taken to Pterodata. I'm not
complaining here, just do you have to do something special to make
part of your sentence a link?
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
If you know html (like Brad), you can put in your own tags. If you put tags in a link you reference, I usually put the tags in (if you've put in the entire URL and after I've checked out the link). JC
"Thank you da masta you really know
what your'e talking about.
Is that sarcasm? Or not?
"Why are people saying that Velociraptor could do no damage at all
to Tyrannosaurus? Would Tyrannosaurus not bleed from cuts that
were 10 cm deep? How thick is tyrannosaur skin?"
We can't be sure. Pretty thick I should imagine. Whale sharks have
18cm thick skin, humans just less a millimeter. No more than 5cm
for T - Rex though, I think.
from AlloRex, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 21, 2001 "
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
Trikes are big bulky animals. I can't
image them living in dense forests.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
I only ever use my name (or nick.) You
should have learnt that by now. See earlier vote ur fav dino
forum.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
Kiowa, try the site
Pterodata
Fish - eaters with long crests at the back of their heads and 6m
wingspans. They have no teeth. Just check the site
out.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 22, 2001
hay yall i'm back again, so wat yall
been up too? well i'll tell ya what its like in daa hood, well a
friend of a friend of mine got shot in a drive by this morning &
his assingment was due tomorrow & now he gets let off his
assignment just caus he is dead & i still have to do mine how
sucky is that man. so cauld you please give me info on the
pteranodons. thanks bub. i'll love ya and leave ya. from
Kiowa.
from Kiowa A,
age 16,
miami,
usa,
America;
November 21, 2001
Hey all my people in da house. How'z
it hangin? well i just had this thought you know what im sayin and
i was thinkin how exactly did the D'saurs die? coz everyone thinks
they know but how are they 110% sure? you know what im sayin? well
i got'sta fly my people!
hit me back just to chat truley yours you biggest fan this is
Kylie
from Kylie.H,
age 17,
Brisbane,
Queensland,
Australia;
November 21, 2001
whats ur problem da masta? it dont
matter if ur a regular er not. u stay under ur name dont go
scruin with others reps.
from paranoyed child,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
how many people in here r in gr. 6???
thats 1 for me cuz i am
from paranoyed child,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
CRUNCH, i dont think any1 can be
completely sure whether it did or not. it might have just been
the way the code was programed. every code is made by some1.
that might have been what the code creater thought.
from paranoyed child,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
I have a computer game where you make
a zoo, and I did a code and put a triceritops in a cage. The game
makes triceritops like a savvanah, did triceritops live in a
rainforesty, or jungly area, or did they live in a savvanah area,
I always thought that they were forest dinos, can someone answer
my question?
from CRUNCH,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
"Pip up and do learn the English
Language."
What is wrong with you? you're the one using the word "pip".
And I'm not saying Honkie's wrong. I was just stating my
understanding of the term. I'll thank you not to insult me. If you
want to blame someone, blame my gr. 6 teacher who taught me this.
And don't worry "da masta," I'll still be hanging around. It's
just been a little funny for me the last little
while.
from Skeptic,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
Insanic if you think stegasaurus is
not dangerous and only is if you are stupid enough to get caught
on its tail end. Then you could say tricertops isn't dangerous
unless you are stupid enough to get caught on head end.
Damn have to go to school
from Tom G,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
Thank you da masta you really know
what your'e talking about.
from AlloRex,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
Why are people saying that
Velociraptor could do no damage at all to Tyrannosaurus? Would
Tyrannosaurus not bleed from cuts that were 10 cm deep? How thick
is tyrannosaur skin?
from Brad,
age 14,
Fenelon Falls,
ON,
Canada;
November 21, 2001
But the maniraptor's palm always faced
inwards; the palm cannot face down as in JP.
from Brad,
age 14,
Fenelon Falls,
ON,
Canada;
November 21, 2001
Did I miss anything Skeptic said or
has he gone for good? I hope not. And this bloody Allo vs Rex fan
war has cost us the damn best trivia now. For a while, anyway. And
Gianna's right. Allo is the best Jurassic carnivore, even if T -
Rex could kill it.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
"Hardosaurs, fast, robust and quite
intelligent animals. "
You where really struggling to invent some reasons to why
hadrosaurs where dangerous. Robust. So? Fast? T - Rex can run 'em
down. Intelligent??? What? Not THAT intelligent. Cow - like
intelligence.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
Allosaurischian, IF you are the
gremlin then be ashamed. I even stuck up for Sean S but writing as
someone else and causing confusion is an unforgiveable crime in my
opinion. If T - master forgives you, that really says something
about T - master. Something good. (Allo, I'm not talking about
you. If you are not the gremlin.)
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
"Someone typed that I said I don't
like dinos. Someone just put my name there to be mean. I did not
say that. It is getting really annoying that people are putting
there name as others and saying bad things, even if they don't day
anything rude, it's still bad."
Jeez, I'm sorry for you T- master. "Gremlin" person, this is war.
Me and the zoomDinosaurs regulars vs. you.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
Soon WCW Dinosaurs will start. Thanks
for the weights again Tim. Originally there where going to be 3
"previews" of the WCW Dinoz building. But the first one was
interrupted by two annoying fools asking irritating questions. So
I decided to do only one more. But I lost it. So the very next
thing I will send on the "post your dino stories" thing will be
the first ever episode of Dino WCW. Bloodbath will follow
soon.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
Compare the tyrannosaur's brain cast
to a model of a human brain and you will see.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
"What to do !?
Yes! This battle is taking up space! Can't both sides agree that
both Allo and T - Rex are powerful predators? C' mon
people!
The forum is being taken over by T-Rex Allosaurus battles!
I must say that I agree with what Rex fans are saying, but can we
leave this subject behind? Way too much time is being spent on
T-Rex vs. every dinosaur battles that have come up many a time
before."
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
"Was da masta asking a trivia question
or did he want to know about Kakuru?"
I was asking a trivia question.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
"And Velociraptor probably couldn't
open doors. Its hands did not move the way shown in JP."
Mmmmmm. The maniraptora are distinguished by a moon shaped bone in
the wrist that I think help the wrist to be flexible. They in
theory, could open doors, but I think that they lack the
intelligence to do so.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
The school comupters are so rubbish
and on weekdays I have so little time at home that I have sent few
messages the last few days. And I can't answer everything
anymore.
When I said "TRY ARGUINING WITH YOUR FORM TUTOR, IT HELPS TO
RELEASE ANGER" I was just giving helpful advice Gianna. Or trying
to.
What a shame.
"what are there skeleton like ? WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
how big is tere skeleton ? WHOE'S SKELETON?
what spicel thing dons the skeleton let then do that humans can't
do ? SACRA? I DON'T KNOW. THE SACRA, SPIKES IN THE FRONT OF A
VERTEBRA, STICK INTO HOLES IN THE BACK OF THE FRONT VERTABRA, SO
THE BACKBONE CAN MOVE UP AND DOWN, BUT NOT RIGHT AND LEFT. IS THAT
IT?
how many bonse do they have ? DEPENDS. ON THE SPECIES.
what are it bones made off ?" CALCIUM.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
This is getting pathetic. People are
getting off this site for a while because of this idiotic gang
warfare!
"Oh, well, fine, I'm not posting anything here for a while.
Because now I suppose I'm wrong about everything, Allosaurus can't
be all that bad. It was the best carnivore of the Jurassic.
That's another person gone for a while because of this. Can't
people respect each other?
T - rex and Allo can both inflict severe damage, but even though
T- rex is the stronger, both are great predators.
I won't post for a while just read yours. I STILL THINK THAT T.Rex
could kill Allosaurus I'm not sure if it'll die later. Whoever
laughed at my idea sure doesn't have respect for other people's
opinions.
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 20, 2001 "
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
"DA MASTA- Do you mean 'Kakuru'? If
you do its name means "rainbow serpent" because it was known from
an opal tibia. It was named by Molnar and Pledge.
Well done Buffy C.
Also, if I become a victim of a "gremlin" I hope you will
recognise that it is not me. I hope you know me sufficiently well
as to know that I do not attack anyone actively or do anything
very stupid here.
JC - Is there any way of barring people who have abused people by
sending false messages as someone else?
Bye!!!"
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
No, ntoright now. We'd have to change the set up so that you have to sign up, pick a user name, and then post messages. JC
"Alright!! I'll tell you their weights
in metric tonnes.
Torvosaurus: 2-5 tonnes
WHEW!!
Wow! Thanks Tim! Well done! You've saved me loads of
time!
Allosaurus(Fragilis): 1-1.7 tonnes
Alioramus: 0.7 to 1 tonne
Dilophosaurus: 0.3 to 0.45 tonnes
Piatnitskysaurus: 0.25 to 0.3 tonnes
Utahraptor:1 tonne
Carcharodontosaurus:7 to 8 tonnes
Piveteausaurus: I honestly don't know, check the Dinosauricon
Genus index
Suchomimus:Don't know, don't think there's an estimate yet.
Spinosaurus:4 to 7 tonnes (I think)
Baryonyx:1.5 to 2 tonnes
Cryolophosaurus: Probably 0.5 to 1.5 tonnes
Megaraptor: around 1 tonne
Indosuchus:Around 1 tonne
Indosaurus: around 0.7 to 1 tonne
Albertosaurus:1.8 to 2.5 tonnes
Daspletosaurus:2 to 3.5 tonnes
Tarbosaurus baatar: 4 to 5 tonnes
Tarbosaurus efremovi: 3 to 4 tonnes
Ceratosaurus:0.5 to 1 tonne
Proceratosaurus: 0.1 tonne
Megalosaurus:0.9 to 1.5 tonnes
Carnotaurus:1 tonne
Majungatholus: don't know
Acrocanthosaurus:2 to 4 tonnes
Nanotyrannus: not sure, probably less than 1.5 tonnes
Alectrosaurus: 0.5 to 1.5 tonnes
Neovenator: Don't know
Afrovenator: Not sure
Yangchuanosaurus: 3.5 tonnes
Szechuanosaurus: 0.1 to 0.15 tonnes
Gasosaurus:0.15 tonnes
Gorgosaurus:2.5 tonnes
Lilliensternus:0.4 tonnes
Hope that helps.
from Tim M., age ?, ?, ?, ?; November 17, 2001 "
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
November 21, 2001
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