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"I agree Jason, you're kinda stupid.
You are in a state of denial, but any fool can see you are
outgunned, outsmarted, outshot, outdone, outnumbered, outargued
and out of options. In short, I generally despise T-Rex and its
fans as they look down on Stegosaurus, but to ally myself with
such a fool is an insult to my intelligence. In short, even me,
a vowed enemy of T-Rex, am telling you that you have lost, now
get over it, go home and nurse your wounds. By carrying on you
are making every anti-Rexer look bad and stupid (though
admittedly, some like ... are). Can we talk about Stegosaurus
for a change?"
Since when did I become the representative of the anit-T.rex
fans? Who said you had to ally with me? And by all means, talk
about Stegosaurus, I won't stop you. I think the sails on his
back were used as an impressive mate attractor. They could
colored, and so forth.
"We T-rex fans don't even have to lift a finger for ourselves,
even outsiders think that Jason, Sean and the anti-rex bunch are
nothing but a bunch of fanatic "I'll do anything to win" bunch,
the AUDIENCE speaks, and that says volumes more about how
superior our case and arguments are. Thank you audience. Jason
can go on fighting his losing battle, the world is laughing."
Well, I haven't lost yet, though, have I.
"And by the way, Megalodon is only about 45 feet, not 60 feet."
Says who? Only his teeth have been found.
"even lizards that go after large prey (like the komodo dragon),
attack with their teeth alone and don't use the front limbs at
all. If they can do it, so can T. rex, especially when you
consider that compared to a komodo dragon, a T rex had much
stronger teeth and the advantage of stereovision."
Komdo dragons don't need a strong bite, for they wage a chemical
war(Septic bite).
"Man, I hate talking about my fave dino hunter's boo boos."
Well, then don't.
"I agree Rainman, Jasaon should just shut up, I'm no rexer fan,
but I can tell this guy is just completely juvinile."
"jason dunno squat about animals."
So, everyone's jumping on the band wagon, huh?
Well, that's it. I will not reply to those who insult me. I will
act like that post didn't exsist, and move on. This pointless
debate is over for me. But that doesn't mean I've
lost.
from Jason,
age 13,
Dayton,
Ohio,
USA;
August 20, 2001
Could T-Rex be hunting in packs and
ambushing preys like lions do? That would solve the problem of
agility, having to zizag less by running after the prey. That
would also solve the problem of falling and hurting themselves.
We know that there was much more vegetation back then and that
there was a warm climate even in Northern countries.
I mean, when you look at a crocodile, it doesn't strike you as
an efficient predator, since it got so tiny legs that it cannot
chase after its preys! However, ambush make them very good at
catching animals! Could T-Rex be am ambush predator?
Them ore I think of it, the more I think it explains it
all!
from DTM,
age 23,
Montreal,
Quebec,
Canada;
August 20, 2001
I agree with you Brad. But to answer
you'r question,I don't know. You'r post is still the smartest
one,i've heard all day,though.
from Sean S.,
age 13,
?,
?,
U.S.A.;
August 20, 2001
I think all the fights should be
left to websites where you can express your opinion I have a
website and Im going to fix the fights in it and most of the
dinosaurs in my website are about what if tyrannosaurus fought
spino or gigantosaurus? These are my opionions and dont insult
me for them I love the tyrannosaurus but it doesent mean he is
invincibly I dont think gigantosaurus and spinosaurus are either
and why do we never hear about spino fighting giganto why are
the people of the giganto and spino against the tyranno? Id say
tyrannosaurus vs. giganto or spino would have a 50/50 chance for
a win but that is my opinion we will never know who the tougher
dinosaur is but I think the people who love spino should be
quiet and it should only be tyrannosaurus vs. gigantosaurus
because spinosaurus ate fish and there is evidence that states
that and he scavenged other dinosaurs and tyrannosaurus was not
a scavenger what the freak people you think a 40 m!
onster would scavenge dead things with all its power hearing and
smelling I admit its arms were small but that it equaled with an
extremley powerful jaw then its eyesight is terrible but its
hearing and smelling is great making it equal once again
tyrannosaurus was not a scavenger and I stand behind that one
hundered percent
from Tyrannosaurus,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
I hope you have fun on you'r
vacation,J.C..
from Sean S.,
age 13,
?,
?,
U.S.A.;
August 20, 2001
Thanks. It turns out I won't be leaving until tomorrow morning.
"Uh...shouldn't we be discussing
this "giganotosaurus vs. t.rex" thing,like gentlemen?"
No, we shouldn't. I'm tired of reading all of the fight posts.
Giganotosaurus and Tyrannosaurus never met. Similarly,
Tyrannosaurus never encountered Spinosaurus, Allosaurus,
Megaraptor, Velociraptor, or Utahraptor. And why are we still
talking about the Death Star? I admit that I'm not even reading
all of Dino Talk anymore, because there are so many useless
messages.
There is now something I must ask:
Why?
What drives you to love one type of theropod, defending it
constantly, and seeming to automatically consider other large
theropods inferior? I don't see any need to choose a favourite
between Giganotosaurus and Tyrannosaurus. Seriously. And I'd
really someone to answer my question.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
August 20, 2001
You`re wrong Rob that IS how you
would describe rex
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
HHH would defeat any dinosaur
including Spino or his weaker rival, T.Rex. HHH would pedigree
them through the announce table. HHH is the game.
Stone Cold, Rock, T.Rex, Goldberg, Darth Maul... they all fear
HHH.
Time to play the game!!!
http://www.wwfhhh.com/photos/index.html
from HHH Rules,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
Sean is right.
from Joe,
age ?,
?,
?,
USA;
August 20, 2001
I like raptors,by the way Sue is
dead. and its a she.
from Joe,
age 9,
?,
?,
USA;
August 20, 2001
doesn't any body here like
velociraptors?I mean I hate the sue T-rex! she always killing
Raptors! I hope she dies!!!!
from Andrea.L.,
age 12,
ottawa,
ontario,
canada;
August 20, 2001
Uh...shouldn't we be discussing this
"giganotosaurus vs. t.rex" thing,like gentlemen? We
giganotosaurus fans,don't want to hear you'r childish insults.
If you don't want to face the facts,you should start you'r own
anti-giganotosaurus website. By the way,if you don't want to be
insulted,you shouldn't insult us. (Because thats no way,to talk
to you'r critics.) Anyway,if you can't talk without insulting
us,I request you take you'r posting somewhere else. We know
you'll use any excuse to defend t.rex,even if it makes you look
ridiculous. Why does it come as a suprise to you,that
giganotosaurus could beat t.rex?! Giganotosaurus and t.rex,had
the same basic theropod form,therefore,both animals would've
been dangerous to each other. (Because of this,the bigger
theropod would probably win-this theropod was giganotosaurus.)
We realy need to change the subject.(Because there is realy no
reason to continue this debate,we already know giganotosaurus
could win.) And you t.rex fans need to stop posting this nonsense,because
nobody wants to read that crap! (Well...a crazed t.rex fan might
want to read it,but we don't!) Anyway,if you're going to say
something,you might as well be polite and reasonable,about it.
Thank you.
from Sean S.,
age 13,
?,
?,
U.S.A.;
August 20, 2001
I have a suggestion. Why don't you
t.rex fans leave this forum,and come back when you think you can
behave,instead of insulting us.
from Sean S.,
age 13,
?,
?,
U.S.A.;
August 20, 2001
Rock- you seem to forget that I have
beat you 1000 times. I am the game. I am that good. Don't forget
it. When I return from my leg injury the WWF will see a reign of
domination unlike any experienced before. Rock, Stone Cold,
Angle, Big Papa Pump, Goldberg.... all of your A@#es are MINE.
The Game,
HHH
from HHH,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
"Go Jason!"
Thanks!
from Jason,
age 13,
Dayton,
Ohio,
USA;
August 20, 2001
"Well it seems you are exteremly
stupid MrTFan!!"
This is NOT Jason 13 from Ohio who wrote this! I think someone
is trying to use my name. I would NOT write something this
infantile.
from Jason,
age 13,
Dayton,
Ohio,
USA;
August 20, 2001
Jason, your Megaladon stats are
blown way out. A reasonable estimate would be about 40-50 feet.
There are serious physical and biological problems with a 60-100
foot predatory shark hunting well!
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
Why Tyrannosaurus was not a pure
scavenger.
The only animals that qualify as 100% scavengers are vultures -
and, of course, they cheat. From 500 meters up, a vulture can
see for kilometers in every direction and spot carcasses from
far away. They use up very little energy gliding down to feed.
You can be a "pure" scavenger, you just have to able to fly. But
there certainly aren't any 100% scavengers that live on the
ground.I'm not sure I'd say that a predator "obviously wants
live prey." I've seen films of lions eating meat that was
literally crawling with maggots, and they sure didn't seem to be
any less enthusiastic about eating it. In fact, dead meat is
really just meat that you don't have to work for. Certainly
there are predators that won't scavenge - snakes for example -
but I don't think it's accurate to say that in general predators
want live prey. But it'll be bonkers to try to say that any
large, land based predators would scavenge 100 percent of the
time.
Virtually all the land-based predators we are familar with today
all get within the general vicinity of their prey using smell
(lions, wolves, leopards, yadda yadda yadda), then locate it by
hearing, and use vision for the attack. In short, it's pretty
bonkers to suggest any animal which had a good nose would have
been a scavenger! While that certainly may be true for some,
this sequence is by no means universal. A snake is as deaf as a
post, and can't locate its prey by sound. Instead they use a
combination of smell, heat sensors, and sight. Birds don't
usually use smell to locate their prey, especially hawks which
attack from great heights. It would be correct to say that
Tyrannosaurus hunting techniques didn't involve the use of
arms. Something for Dr. Horner to keep in mind is that lizards,
even lizards that go after large prey (like the komodo dragon),
attack with their teeth alone and don't use the front limbs at
all. If they can do it, so can T. rex, especially when you consider that compared to a komodo dragon, a T rex had much
stronger teeth and the advantage of stereovision.
Modern day predators are opportunists and there's no reason to
think that T. rex was any different. There's always a problem
when people try to make an either…or classification. Like
extinction theories - why not a combination of factors? I think
that's the point the T. rex crazies here want to drive, that T.
rex would have behaved pretty much like the modern predators we
see today.
PS: I find it real odd why Horner only picks mainly on T. rex
for his scavenger theory. His agruments of slow speed, poor
eyesight would actually better fit dinosaurs like Spinosaurus,
Allosaurus and certainly Giganotosaurus! I was also pretty
preplexed when he said that Spinosaurus would have been the
"real predator", very odd indeed, considering all the scavneger
arguments he had put out! If you wanted to buy his theory, you
will have to be forced to say virtually all large, meat eating
dinosaurs are scavengers! Note that Giganotosaurus and
Spinosaurus crazies!
from Rob,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
Man! Are people saying bad things
about my favourite dino-hunter Jack Horner? Now let me tell you,
Jack Horner is contributed a great deal to what we know about
dinosaurs today. He uncovered a great deal about hardosaurs and
their lives, turning around many old ideas and notions. His work
on Maisauria is fantastic and I'm a great fan of it.
However though, I must admit that his work on T.Rex is quite
substandard of his work on other dinosaurs. I mean there is a
great difference in the amount of detail and work he put into
studying hardosaurs and studying Tyrannosaurs. After reading a
few of his books and papers on both Tyrannosaurus and his mroe
common hardosaurs, I'd realized that he didn't spend too much
time looking into T-Rex at all, save for putting out the points
that seem to support his theory. This turned out to be a rather
bad blunder as other paleontologists more proficent in
Tyrannosaurus contradicted a lot of his points. The public
didn't exactly help either, taking sides (imagine how many
Triceratops fans will jump at accepting the idea that T.Rex, the
hunter and killer of their fave dino was only a harmless
scavenger!). Of course, the burdern of proof was and still is on
the side of those supporting that T.Rex could hunt, and Horner
literally became a one-man show on the matter, after all the
experts supporting him literally deserted! (Even Bakker reversed his
opinion after siding with Horner for a while) I hate to
contradict my fave dino expert, but I will have to say he is
most probably wrong in this case. Of course, the discovery of
healed T.Rex attacks on fossils of its prey animals finally
threw Horner's theory out of the window, well and proper.
I still respect him, but I find that sometimes, a big person
like him can find it hard to say that he's wrong. That's
probably why he still contuines to hold to his theory. He
dosen't promote it now though, and has gone quite low-profile on
the entitre matter, except to make a few snide remarks while
consulting for JP3. I hope he isn't bitter. But I wonder how
long he can really contuine to hold his rapidly-weakening idea
that T-Rex was what he said it was.
Jason, as much as I like to see you supporting Horner, I don't
think supporting a discredited theory is going to help too much.
T-Rex wasn't a full time scavenger, he was a very proficent
hunter.
Man, I hate talking about my fave dino hunter's boo
boos.
from Jonah,
age 14,
LA,
CA,
USA;
August 20, 2001
Just as we all knew would happen,
the dinosaur forum has been taken over by JP3 "Spinosaurus" fans
(and the Giganotosaurus fans, and the T. rex fans). There are
more serious dinosaur discussions on Dan's JP3
Page.
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
August 20, 2001
"people what are your theories on
utharaptor and megaraptor"
I don't have theories about them. What do you want our opinions
on? (evolutionary relationships, diet, hunting behaviour,
fighting other theropods?)
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
August 20, 2001
Rexy, our unpolished hero, will have
many advantages and will undoubtably use all of them and more.
He is about as smart as MacGyver (as he's superintelligent in
this case), and will be able to wreck havoc on the Death Star
with just a popsicle and a wad of chewing gum, but he has more.
One, as stated before, the intelligence (or lack of) of the
Storm Troopers. Rexy is no Einstein, but he may even kill more
of them than all the Sly/Arnold/C. Norris movies combined,
making him the All Time Greatest Action Hero (tm). Second, if
two losers like Hans Solo and Luke Skywalker can run loose with
their pet dog, uh, bear, uh, whatever and two idiot robots, and
go basically wherever they want, a wild brawl Tyrannosaurid
dinosaur will own the place in minutes!
Third, have you seen a Death Star? There are more places to hide
on one of them than in all of Mexico! Fourth, Hollywood.
Hollywood made those guys. Hans Solo was a John Wayne wannabe.
They know of Earth and (since they all speak English (some with
pronounced German accents, now why is that?) they have seen all
the reruns beamed into space on Nick at Night (tm). Yippekaiyay
Mudda@$*^$@ will work on them just fine.
And lastly, Rexy won't need the home worlds bureaucracy from
PG-13 ratings to hinder him. He will have the knowledge that if
the Death Star wins, the Dark Forces (another term for
Bureaucracy) will be in charge. He will became just another
Storm Trooper (if'n he survives). Earth might be conquered, but
it would never be destroyed. The last aliens tried that and
failed (see ID4). Rexy will use all that is available to him,
i.e. all his friends back home, the internet (beamed over Bill
Gates low trajectory satellite network), some cool guns and
light sabres, plenty of poetic license, and just plain good fun,
filled with fires and explosions.
from John,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
Date line- Death Star
"The Death Star was destroyed today when one of Dinosauria's
finest accidently ignited a pail of oily rags. Tyrannosaurus rex
was sneaking around in Sector J when he tossed a smouldering
Marlboro butt he found on the floor into what he believed to be
an ashtray. When approached later, Tyrannosaurus stated, "Get
outta my face scumbag, I'm gonna kick some butt. And don't leave
that piece of litter there or I'll snap your neck.".
Darth Vader could not be reached for comment.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
jason dunno squat about
animals
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
To a Jarson:
HEYNAS AREN'T GREAT SCAVENGERS, THEY ARE GREAT PREDATORS, YOU
...
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
I think Sean is the biggest Jerk
(trademarked) here. Looking back in the archives, I found out
he's the one who started insulting people because they didn't
agree with him and managed to finish off his points like killing
flow. He was just too childish to take that he was beaten and
started to insult people. In fact, even the insults of the T.Rex
fans have some truth in them, (ie: like him being stubborn and
stupid), but Sean insults are just insults. Sean, you better
shut your trap, you're the jerk/ bloody fool here. You have been
beaten, so go away and improved yourself, quit insulting people
before you are banned. Don't you get it? YOU HAVE LOST. DON'T BE
A SORE LOSER. Insulting people and playing all your stupid games
(I find some of his nicknames offensive and degradory to my
religion), it's nothing to be bloody proud of.
This vote is for Utahraptor, the best dino in the
world.
from Jimmy P.,
age 11,
Lansdown,
UK,
Ireland;
August 20, 2001
I agree Jason, you're kinda stupid.
You are in a state of denial, but any fool can see you are
outgunned, outsmarted, outshot, outdone, outnumbered, outargued
and out of options. In short, I generally despise T-Rex and its
fans as they look down on Stegosaurus, but to ally myself with
such a fool is an insult to my intelligence. In short, even me,
a vowed enemy of T-Rex, am telling you that you have lost, now
get over it, go home and nurse your wounds. By carrying on you
are making every anti-Rexer look bad and stupid (though
admittedly, some like Sean are). Can we talk about Stegosaurus
for a change?
from Stegs,
age 13,
Memorex,
?,
USA;
August 20, 2001
We T-rex fans don't even have to
lift a finger for ourselves, even outsiders think that Jason,
Sean and the anti-rex bunch are nothing but a bunch of fanatic
"I'll do anything to win" bunch, the AUDIENCE speaks, and that
says volumes more about how superior our case and arguments are.
Thank you audience. Jason can go on fighting his losing battle,
the world is laughing.
from T.rex fan,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
"I'm not in a state of denial. I am
in a state called Ohio. I suggest that you all stop calling my
posts crapola and made of complete nonsense, they are not. By
the way, you spelled "idiocy" wrong. I suggest you stop this
infantile name-calling."
I agree Rainman, Jasaon should just shut up, I'm no rexer fan,
but I can tell this guy is just completely
juvinile.
from Just another passerby,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
IT DOSEN'T MATTER WAHT T-REX DOES-
AHHHGHHHH! (CRUNCH!) NOOOOOO!!!! ARGHHHHHHH!
YAHHHHHHHHH!!!!(POP!) NOOOOO!!!!(SNAP!)
(The audience dodges as The Rock's (tm) severed arm is send
flying over their heads. The WWF star has been killed by T-rex.
He should have stuck with the fake world of wrestling instead of
challanging T-rex to a real world of hurt...)
Do you smell what the T-rex is cooking??? It's The
Rock!
from The Rock,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
"Spino is bigger, badder, stronger,
has a bigger mouth, sharper teeth, stronger arms and in general
is T-Rex's daddy."
Actually, in acutal fact, Spinosaurus had a smaller mouth and
his teeth were blunter.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
Horner isn't evil, he's
incompetent...
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
It seems the only people who like
Spinosaurus for the reason it was the meanest dino around do not
know anything about dinos besides JP movies. Your points have no
effect and we shall now laugh at your pitiful and ignorant ways.
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
Spinosaurus wasn't the meanest dino around by a long shot. You
want to know the meanest dino? Three words: Tyrannosaurus rex
osborn.
Theoretical Fight:
Liopluerodon/Megalodon
Who would win?
Liopluerodon, by a long shot. He may be marginally smaller but
he packs one mean wallop, much meaner than Megalodon. And by the
way, Megalodon is only about 45 feet, not 60
feet.
from Lukerish,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 20, 2001
SPINO? T-REX'S DADDY? WOOOOOOOOO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ITS MORE LIKE THIS:
SPINO IS T-REX'S HO
from C.INGENS (im baaaack),
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 19, 2001
New sheriff? Spinosaurus?
HAHAHAHAHA now thats entertainment.
More like the new septic-tank cleaner.
T.Rex aint no sheriff, he's tha bad @$$ King!!!
from C.Ingens ... I HAVE RETURNED,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 19, 2001
T-Rex is all played out. Spino is
the new sheriff in town. T-Rex is old and weak. Only old people
like T-Rex. Spino is the new king. He'd snap T-Rex's neck like a
croc through a water buffalo's. Spino is a playa... T-Rex is
just a playa hater.
Spino is bigger, badder, stronger, has a bigger mouth, sharper
teeth, stronger arms and in general is T-Rex's
daddy.
from Delco,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 19, 2001
This is The Rock, coming to
straighten out all you @#$^*& jambronis. The Rock could whup on
any of these wussy dinosaurs and the Death Star! All you rex
fans should drink a can of shut-up juice! As the People's
Champion, The Rock will open up a can on any Lizard's Champion!
So, boo-ya!
from TheRock,
age &*%!,
San Jose,
CA,
USA;
August 19, 2001
Go Jason! (Please don't block this
post,J.C..)
from Sean S.,
age 13,
?,
?,
U.S.A.;
August 19, 2001
Hi, I like dinosaurs there so
cool
from Kyle B,
age 6,
Ogden,
Utah,
USA;
August 19, 2001
I hate www.tyrannosaurus.cjb.net!!!!
rex could NOT have one on ANY of
`em!!!
from Joe,
age 9,
Midland,
MI,
USA;
August 19, 2001
Well it seems you are exteremly
stupid MrTFan!!
from Jason,
age 13,
?,
?,
?;
August 19, 2001
"Sorry Jason boyo, I'm juz a
passerby and I say that ya' are just in denial. I'm no rexy fan
but I can see that the rex guys have you up a tree with thier
more solid, rational answers. You don't have to say they are all
fanatics to make yourself look better, people looking in on this
can tell you are obviously the one in denial. Give it up and
stop messin this place up with your crapola and go back to
preschool to argue with the kids there, at least you can talk
with somebody on your level. Cos ya're pissin' everybody off
with your idiocity."
I'm not in a state of denial. I am in a state called Ohio. I
suggest that you all stop calling my posts crapola and made of
complete nonsense, they are not. By the way, you spelled
"idiocy" wrong. I suggest you stop this infantile name-calling.
"No Jason, you're as stubborn as any anti T-Rex person here."
Thanks!
"Nobody said you were making subjective compairisons, you are
making poor ones. Obviosuly you have seen and learned little
(saying Heynas are GREAT examples of predators???)"
First of all, why are you passing judgement on my comparisons by
calling them poor? Second, I didnt say that hyenas were great at
predation, and third, they are very good predators.
"Actually, Horner is also quite a master at making bad
antalogies, for example, he said T.rex must have had been a
scavneger for he had such small arms, and he went on to say 'If
you want to catch a chicken, you don't do it with your arms
tied, you do it with your arms.'"
You appear to be missing my point.
"I agree with you about the megaladon about the fact that it is
a great hunter but we dont know if it is the best one of all
time even though it could kill whales well some dinosaurs killed
things that were bigger than there size to. Also my comparisons
are just for fun its nothing to argue to me over I make my site
to give tyrannosaurus fans something to hold onto for rex and I
swear to you that I know tyrannosaurus is still the king of the
dinos his hearing was great same with his smelling he was smart
for a dinosaur and he was very powerful his teeth were long up
to 9 inches and could crunch bones tyrannosaurus was truly and
awsome predator and have you heard of tyrannosaurus imperator he
is supposedly 15-20% larger than a normal tyrannosaurus rex his
size should be about 52 ft long! can you believe that you
giganto fans have your opionions to thats why I posted my opinon
of how tyrannosaurus would lose to him I finished the
deinonychus battle thing to so come on in and see
the new battles were rex loses in an alternate ending or see
the ones where he wins the battles.
I wasn't arguing with anyone. That's just another theory of
mine. But how can you compete with a 60 foot long shark? Stay
out of its way!
www.tyrannosaurus.cjb.net
TyRaNoSaUrUs ReX"
from Jason,
age 13,
Dayton,
Ohio,
USA;
August 19, 2001
wright enough brad?
from stephanie,
age 14,
st.catharines,
on.,
canada;
August 19, 2001
Question J.C.. Why do block my
messages,even when i'm not being insulting,at the present time?
When people are insulting,I believe their message shouldn't be
posted. But I don't think they should be blocked,whenever
they're not being insulting.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 19, 2001
Nothing has been blocked - and I have no idea don't like anonymous postings. JC
I believe giganotosaurus can beat
t.rex.(This is my story,and i'm sticking to it.)
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 19, 2001
Honkie Tong i'm not here to insult
people. I'm tired of being bullied by a bunch of no good t.rex
fans. You can't just insult people,and expect to get away with
it. The reason i'm being such a jerk,is because you're the
jerks! I wouldn't insult you,if you didn't insult me! Just look
at the rest of these t.rex fans. (Do they look like kind people
to you?!) I probably wouldn't hate t.rex fans so much,if they
weren't so rude and arrogant. (You'r pals are not what i'd call
innocent,you know.) I believe the right to talk trash,when
people talk trash to me. If you leave me alone,i'll leave you
alone. Trying to ban me eh? (I'm afraid i've thought of that.)
If I can't talk trash,why should they get away with it?! Give me
a break!
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 19, 2001
Well it seems now that T-Rex and
Giganotosaurus hunted in PACKS!!!like wolves and like another
new theropod found in Argentina that is still unnamed but bigger
than Giganotosaurus (45 feet vs 42 for Giga and
Carcharadontosaur and 40 for T-Rex which ranks now "only"fourth
in that mega battle........)
from Biscuit,
age ?,
?,
?,
switzerland;
August 19, 2001
Listen up honchos!
Give up Sean, you have already lost, nobody is listening to you.
You can do the very least and save your dignity by shutting up
instead of showing the wold world how immature and juvinile you
are by pretending to be a fanatic T.Rex fan (We know you are the
one behind it, we have the means to know) or by insulting people
or by posting crap. You are not impressing anybody and only
showing how dumb you are.
T.Rex is hellavua tough, hellavua strong, hellavua fast,
hellavua mean, and Giganotosaurus is hellavua
dead.
from Mr. T fan,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 19, 2001
people what are your theories on
utharaptor and megaraptor
from greg n,
age 12,
miami,
florida,
usa;
August 19, 2001
The Spinosaur win over T-Rex in JP3
reminded me a lot of Jaws II where the super scaled-up Great
White shark kills a Killer whale. Well
we know for a fact that killer whales are bigger than Great
Whites and that they can kill them. Of course we'll never know
for sure but it seems dubious that a "non-Hollywood" Spinosaur
would kill a T-Rex.
from Biscuit,
age 25,
?,
?,
Switzerland;
August 19, 2001
No Jason, you're as stubborn as any
anti T-Rex person here.
You just post the most number of illogical T-Rex arguments here
that's why you're the most laughable.
LOL!
from Guile,
age 19,
Quezon City,
Metro Manila,
Philippines;
August 19, 2001
Tyrannosaurus Imperator is an
invalid species, and never was a true title, rather a nickname.
The specimen is just a large Rex approximately 15% than
Giganatosaurus. The 15% figure is based on partial remains
compared to the corresponding Giganatosaurus
bones.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 19, 2001
The awesome weaponry of
Tyrannosaurus, trained upon Giganotosaurus, will reduce it to
atoms, and the atoms to their component particles, and the
particles to their component quarks.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 19, 2001
T-man is so freakin' strong, he'll
pop Giggy's head like a zit. That'll be bloody fun to
watch.
from Damean,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 19, 2001
T.Rex IS a dino from Late Cretacious
America, so he knows how to handle insumountable odds and
dangerous freaks in weird costumes (like weird freakish horned,
frilled dinos, weird, crested duckbills, oddly looking, blney
dinos and dome heads), and what is the Empire but a bunch of
freaks in weird costumes?. Most importantly, T.Rex is an
absolute master of destroying things, Death Star not witholding,
and proton torpedos be damned. If it can be destroyed, T.Rex can
blow it up. And what's the only way to beat the Death Star,
destroying it. T.Rex with undoubtedly win, slaughtering
Stormtroopers right and left on the way, and getting on com
links and making smart a(* remarks to the admirals to boot.
After happily blowing away stormtroopers for a couple of hours,
T.Rex realizes that this just is not going to stop the Death
Star before it gets to Earth. So, in dramatic fashion, he
commandeers the Communications Center and sends a message down
to Earth asking for help. Only one person responds to his hail
but after a short explanation of the situation, T.Rex's contact,
Ian Malcom or that cable guy from ID4, dosen't matter, both are
Jeff Goldbulm, comes up with a computer virus that will end the
threat once and for all. Unfortunately, it is going to take
about twenty hours to install so T.Rex will have to create a
major diversion to keep the enemy from discovering the plan.
But T.Rex has just the thing.
Using his ally's extensive connections, T.Rex sets up radio,
television and internet feeds to the rest of the space station,
providing America's finest entertainment. Tens of thousands of
bored, lonely, Imperials are simply unable to resist. Thousands
gather around public viewscreens and are turned into couch
potatoes by Seinfeld, David Letterman, The X-Files, MTV, Monday
Night Football, ESPN's Sportscenter, Melrose Place, Baywatch and
The Home Shopping Channel. While the Detention Center and the
Fighter Wings face off in Duke Nukem Dukematches and the main
gunners are busy in chat rooms, the command structure is
neutralized by unauthorized Solitaire games. Only the Admiral,
who fears a long-distance choke hold by the Emperor, tries to
keep order but is unable to stop the shouts of "STERN RULES!"
and "Groovy!" that occasionally can be heard over the blasting
Rock'n'Roll. All T.Rex has to do is sit back, relax and protect
the Communications Room from the occasional unlucky intr!
uder.
Then, as the virus is almost fully loaded, T.Rex lowers the
boom. The radio starts playing the "Milli Vanilli/ Yoko Ono/ 2
Live Crew/ Bee Gees/ Vanilla Ice/ New Kids on the Block/
Osmonds/ Abba/ Barry Manilow" Marathon. The TV gets only four
stations: Comedy Central, HBO in the middle of "Police Academy
6", PBS during "Barney & Friends" and ABC during "America's
Funniest Home Videos." Meanwhile, all the computers begin
emulating Commodore 64s. The entire crew is made helpless while
suffering through major "quality entertainment" withdraw
symptoms.
Seconds before the virus takes effect, the Admiral finally
climbs over the comatose bodies (well, too much telly can damage
your brain) and gets to Communications. He reaches the computer
just in time to scream "WHAT THE *^%& IS WINDOWS 2000?!" before
the entire Death Star suffers a General Protection Fault and
explodes.
T.Rex, along with a large amount of debris, atmosphere, and
technicians is blown out into space by the final stages of the
explosion. Just like Bruce Willis when he ejected out of the
plane in the second movie, except the explosion is bigger and
has little "tinkle tinkle" effects in it. T.Rex could call it
quits here, with victory achieved, but then he wouldn't be able
to kick the butt of the favourite dinosaurs of his detractors,
so he fights on.
Luckily for T.Rex, the Death Star had closed to point-blank
range with Earth just prior to the explosion, and he was on the
side facing the planet, so his eyes are only just starting to
bug out like the people in Total Recall before he begins
reentry. He is able to shield himself behind a chunk of hull
plating and consequently avoid being vaporized during the
initial stages of his fall.
Then he mounts the thinner -- thanks to ablating -- plate and
rides it down like a surfboard, using it to slow and direct his
descent as he looks frantically for a way to cushion his
landing. Finally he notices a couple buildings with large crowds
surrounding them and angles that way, hoping for a dramatic
impact.
Amazingly, he crashes through the roof of one building, totally
destroying it but somehow shedding velocity slowly enough to
avoid death or even meaningful injury, although his custom made
"I blew up the Death Star and all I got was this lously T-Shirt"
T-shirt is totally torn away. He staggers outside, issues his
famous "Yippekaiyay" phrase, and nimbly sidesteps the "Hard Rock
Cafe" sign as it crashes to the ground beside him. Pushing his
way through the adoring crowd, T.Rex heads to the Planet
Hollywood across the street for a drink, and to trash the Spino
figurene there. It's Miller time. (TM)
from Bob,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 19, 2001
Relax Lillian, Sean is just angry
and jealous he's not as smart as you. Nobody listens to him. I
don't.
from Bob,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
Sorry Jason boyo, I'm juz a passerby
and I say that ya' are just in denial. I'm no rexy fan but I can
see that the rex guys have you up a tree with thier more solid,
rational answers. You don't have to say they are all fanatics to
make yourself look better, people looking in on this can tell
you are obviously the one in denial. Give it up and stop messin
this place up with your crapola and go back to preschool to
argue with the kids there, at least you can talk with somebody
on your level. Cos ya're pissin' everybody off with your
idiocity.
from Mr Rainman,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
T-Rex was one phat G!!! He be
capping Spino 24/7 like a mofo. All dos white doctors dat be
saying he was a scavenger are wack. They don't know nuthin.
T-Rex was da bomb. An just cus yur educated don't mean you know
it all. I know stuff to like all my other T-Rex
homeboys.
from Delco,
age 12,
Compton,
CA,
?;
August 18, 2001
Theoretical Fight:
Liopluerodon/Megalodon
Who would win?
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
No matter what he says, Sean S. is
wrong. Heck, he looked a lot smarter when he shut his
mouth.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
Giganotosaurus and Spinosaurus are
weak, even a Gallus domesticus
can defeat them easily.
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
"The comparisons I am making are
purely objective. Unlike the subjective comparisons you think I
am making. In other words, the comparisons are based on what I
have seen and learned."
Nobody said you were making subjective compairisons, you are
making poor ones. Obviosuly you have seen and learned little
(saying Heynas are GREAT examples of
predators???)
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
I agree with you about the megaladon
about the fact that it is a great hunter but we dont know if it
is the best one of all time even though it could kill whales
well some dinosaurs killed things that were bigger than there
size to. Also my comparisons are just for fun its nothing to
argue to me over I make my site to give tyrannosaurus fans
something to hold onto for rex and I swear to you that I know
tyrannosaurus is still the king of the dinos his hearing was
great same with his smelling he was smart for a dinosaur and he
was very powerful his teeth were long up to 9 inches and could
crunch bones tyrannosaurus was truly and awsome predator and
have you heard of tyrannosaurus imperator he is supposedly
15-20% larger than a normal tyrannosaurus rex his size should be
about 52 ft long! can you believe that you giganto fans have
your opionions to thats why I posted my opinon of how
tyrannosaurus would lose to him I finished the deinonychus
battle thing to so come on in and see the new battles were rex loses in
an alternate ending or see the ones where he wins the
battles.
www.tyrannosaurus.cjb.net
TyRaNoSaUrUs ReX
from TYRANNOSAURUS,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
"Innumerable analogies have been
made by Dr. Bakker and the evil Dr. Horner. Apparently with you
guys, the only ones that "fit" are those that conform to your
own prejudices."
Actually, Horner is also quite a master at making bad
antalogies, for example, he said T.rex must have had been a
scavneger for he had such small arms, and he went on to say "If
you want to catch a chicken, you don't do it with your arms
tied, you do it with your arms."
See any apparent weaknesses in this anatology.
And worse, Horner actually made quite a bit of factual errors in
describing Tyrannosaurus and coming out with his theories on
Tyrannosaurus. My favourite is him suggesting that Tyrannosaurus
could not have attacked life prey as his large teeth were too
weak to wistand extreme stresses (an idea creationists still
subscribe to). Of course, virtually every paleontologist
familiar with Tyrannosaurus teeth contradicted him, but he
brused them off, saying they were prejudiced and discredited. Of
course, barely two months later, they found the Triceratops hip
bone with T.rex bite marks, and scientists worked out that T.rex
had an immenensly powerful bite. That shut him up good.
Of course, his theory was killed quite dead after the discovery
of more than 5 seperate pieces of evidence on 5 different
animals that indicated Tyrannosaurus attacked a life animal.
Thankfully Horner has stop promoting his theory (in fact, he has
stop commentening on his Tyrannosaurus theories since the proof
of hunting was discovered), except to take the ocassional dig at
the people who discredited his theory in Jurassic
Park.
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
Sean is just here to insult people,
block him.
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
"Hehe, but I'm not faulting you for
making the compairisms, I'm faulting your compairisms. By all
means you should make compairisms, but make good ones. You
compairism of Tyrannosaurids hearing to modern mammals
completely misses the fact that Tyrannosaurids had much better
hearing than any of his potential prey items!"
"Any paleontologist can tell you you are making dumb and largely
irrevelant, poorly thought out comparisms."
The comparisons I am making are purely objective. Unlike the
subjective comparisons you think I am making. In other words,
the comparisons are based on what I have seen and learned. Many
analogies have been made on this site for and against
tyrannosaurus. Innumerable analogies have been made by Dr.
Bakker and the evil Dr. Horner. Apparently with you guys, the
only ones that "fit" are those that conform to your own
prejudices. In short, in your minds, if any statement is
critical of tyrannosaurus rex, it must be therefore be wrong,
"stupid", "idiotic", and made of "misconceptions" and "old
info".
PS: The REAL great predator was Megaladon, the most efficient
and deadliest predator ever. He apparently ate whales and other
whale sized creatures for lunch, dinner, and breakfast. Ever
seen one of his teeth compared to a Great White's? No problems
for Megaladon here. And someone tell me a "good" comparison.
Really, what is an objective "good" comparison?
Could Spinosaurus snap tyrannosaurus' neck? Of course not, but
it was great fun to see. Could Giganotosaurus snap
Tyrannosaurus' neck? Possibly, and it would be great fun to see.
from Jason,
age 13,
Dayton,
Ohio,
USA;
August 18, 2001
IM going to add alternate endings
for you guys who want your dinosaurs to win I have added one for
tyrannosaurus vs gigantosaurus and how the hell would
deinonychus float if he weighed seven to eight tons you retard i
guarentee you he didnt we that much rex only weighs and estimate
of 6 tons
www.tyrannosaurus.cjb.net
come look at the new fights and soon to add more alternate
endings
from Tyrannosaurus,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
Well if it isn't the
oldest,wisest,redwood in the forest,Lillian! Way to go! Next
you'll be learning how to tie you'r own shoes! No matter what
you may say,giganotosaurus is strait from the styx.
Giganotosaurus was not as smart as t.rex,but t.rex wasn't a
rocket scientist either! Despite the bigger brain,t.rex probably
wasn't smart enough to make an extreme difference. In a
deathmatch,t.rex could only do so much. Like
t.rex,giganotosaurus was a large bipedal theropod,with an even
bigger skull. Because t.rex and giganotosaurus were so much
alike,they would've had a tough time,keeping each other at
bay,thus the dominant fighter would probably be the bigger one.
And make no mistake about it,giganotosaurus and t.rex were both
very powerful animals. Note:this message does not apply to
tyrannosaurus imperator.
from Sean S.,
age 13,
?,
?,
U.S.A.;
August 18, 2001
Shane,I like you. You are
cool.
from Joe,
age 9,
Midland,
MI,
USA;
August 18, 2001
I was wrong t-rex
stinks.
from T-rex Rules,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
I hate all of u who think rex is
still king. anyway it would b cool if rex was alive so the air
force militiary and navy killed rex rex is fat, stupid,ugly,his
head is as big as his body,spino had jaws like a croc good enuff
2 kill u and rex,
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
ur stupid. spino and gigo ate rex
everyday 4 breakfast,lunch,and dinner. im smart. I M 2 COOL 4
U!!
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
usa;
August 18, 2001
"Even though all reputable
scientists say T.Rex was a scavenger, we know better. We are
smarter than scientists. Scienctists are stupid. T.Rex hunted
and ate Spinos and Giggys. T.Rex would beat them both, no sweat.
Science is wrong. We are right. T.Rex Rules!!! T.Rex is the
greatest animal to ever live. All other dinosaurs )(*& and are
very lame.
T.Rex RULES!!!
I think whoever posted this is a Giggy/Spino fan or a very
fanatical rex (doubtful, for no self-respecting Rex fan would
post such gibberish).
T.Rex Rules!!!
T.Rex Rules!!!"
from zzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
Even though all reputable scientists
say T.Rex was a scavenger, we know better. We are smarter than
scientists. Scienctists are stupid. T.Rex hunted and ate Spinos
and Giggys. T.Rex would beat them both, no sweat. Science is
wrong. We are right. T.Rex Rules!!! T.Rex is the greatest animal
to ever live. All other dinosaurs )(*& and are very lame.
T.Rex RULES!!!
T.Rex Rules!!!
T.Rex Rules!!!
from T.Rex Rules,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
To start, T.Rex rigs heavy
explosives in a landing bay and triggers them from a safe
distance just as a command shuttle is landing. Naturally, all
the attention is diverted and T.Rex managed to sabotage the main
computer core. However, before he can do away with the core, and
unexpected visitor shows up. The Borg. En Masse.
Borg start appearing in the main control areas, and Storm
Troopers set themselves up to defend the primary firing
equipment. However they notice that the borg intruders are in
fact... the Red Shirted Ensigns of Star Trek who are now
matching up against the Storm Troopers in a Star Trek vs Star
Wars war. The Storm Troopers are routed.
The Ensigns blast their way to the main control station and are
about to assimilate it when a shadowy figure slices them to
ribbons, then decloaks to reveal... Predator. The Death Star
destroys another Borg Cube as the Predator stalks out the
remaining borg and destroys them. Suddenly, Sean S. appears on
screen, his implants melting into an image of the T1000 that
worked it's way into the Borg system.
Of course, the old fashioned T800 makes a spectacular entrance
bye nuking several sublevels and a trench or two. The Predator
notices his telltale explosions (and afraid of being beaten by
Arnie again) and bolts onto the Millenium Falcon, which promptly
crashes on the Death Star surface. Han Solo runs for it, but
bumps into Indiana Jones on the way. The two of them adjust
their hair to look properly scruffy, then take off for parts
unkown. T800 blasts his way onto the surface, only to be swarmed
by Ripley's Aliens and neutralized.
Meanwhile, T.Rex makes his way to the Core Reactor but is
thwarted from biting through a critical power cable by the
T1000, now disguised as Keanu Reaves on a speeding bus. T.Rex
jumps for cover, that is, somewhere other than the reactor core,
and hides from the Aliens swarming a cargo hold. Suddenly, Ian
Malcolm appears in the hold and discusses how all these crazy
events are covered the the chaos theory, brutally killing the
Aliens with a special addendum on separate iterations.
T.Rex is promptly beamed down by a top secret teleport ray to
area 51. Shortly after, the Death Star explodes.
Even more baffled, T.Rex asks "How did this happen, anyway?"
Will Smith rotates his navigational chair, chomps on a cigar,
and replies, "42. That's all there is to it."
Five Borg Cubes surround the Death Star. The leader, a borged
form of Sean S., informs the Death Star crew the the Borg will
not allow the Death Star to take Earth before they do, and that
he's intending to take the earth because he wants to take
revenge on the T.Rex fans for his humiliating defeats in
ZoomDinosaurs. The Death Star responds by vaporizing one of
their ships, after which the Borg start firing into the main
part of the hull.
from Emar for the socially maladjusted,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
T-Rex will beat the Death Star. Why?
1) Jeff Goldbum beat the ID4 Aliens.
It's a simple example of the food chain.
"I need to compare the dinosaurs to modern day animals,
mammalian, avian, reptilian, or whatever, because these are the
only examples we have to go on. If you make statements about
tyrannosaurus rex based on the fossil evidence alone, you are
making wildly speculative statements. Any paleontologist will
tell you that."
Any paleontologist can tell you you are making dumb and largely
irrevelant, poorly thought out comparisms.
2) ID4 Aliens are much more technologically advanced and far
meaner than the Empire, for goodness sakes, the Death Star is
only 120 km across while the ID4 Mothership is 1500 km across,
the size of 10 Death Stars! Also, a 15 km ID4 city destroyer can
easily take out the Death Star by themselves.
3)T-Rex kicked Jeff Goldbum's arse in the first JP movie, and
this was a underestimated, cheesy, movie T-Rex. A real T-Rex is
much deadiler.
4)If T-Rex kicked Jeff Goldbum's arse, the guy who could beat
the ID4 Aliens who could beat the empire, what do you think
T-Rex could do to the empire?
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
Deinosuchus riograndensis
By Honkie Tong
It seems that there has been a lot of debate on the size
estimate of Deinosuchus riograndensis, the gigantic Late
Cretaceous crocodilian. As of such, I have done some research on
the matter and come up with the following report, which I shall
now publish here. Any factual mistakes in this report are solely
mine.
Deinosuchus rugosus
(Sometimes wrongly called Phobosuchus riograndensis)
Upper Aguja Formation
This animal has been poorly understood until lately, and even
now, it remains somewhat of an enigma. Due to our poor
understanding of this animal, size estimates of Deinosuchus have
been traditionally varied, ranging from 40-50 feet, and 7-10
tons. But whatever it was, it was clearly a gigantic animal.
The first comprehensive attempt at describing and reconstructing
Deinosuchus, I believe, was done on by the widely publicized
skull and jaws discovered in the Park in 1940, and later
reconstructed at the American Museum of Natural History in New
York. The size estimates of 40-50 feet, 7-10 tons must have been
first derived from this study into the gigantic crocodilian.
However, latest research and discoveries made on this animal
indicate that the traditional estimate may have been excessive.
The reason stems from the fact that the 1940 reconstruction is
most likely inaccurate and over constructed. The original
experts were working on extremely fragmentary remains and the
animal at that time was virtually unknown. This could have
contributed towards the inaccuracy in the original
reconstruction.
In the 1999 fossil hunting expedition in the Big Bend National
Park has proved very enlightening for our insight into
Deinosuchus. The expedition itself was set up to study the
biodiversity of Cretaceous vertebrates in sediments approaching
the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary, and a week's work at the
Deinosuchus locality on the River Road in March yielded 29
numbered specimens from the skeleton of this gigantic Late
Cretaceous crocodile. Included are massive segments of the skull
and jaws, some armor plates from the skin, and most importantly,
several vertebrae. Returning to the site in November, a field
party of four spent two weeks exposing more bones of the
skeleton, salvaging an additional 57 numbered specimens. More
parts of the skull, a thigh bone and several more vertebrae were
discovered. Until now vertebrae of Deinosuchus were poorly
known, but the find contains segments from all parts of the
spinal column. I believe this expedition is still a continuing
project to further the knowledge of the life and times of the closing stages of
the Age of Dinosaurs in southwestern Texas.
Back to Deinosuchus, the new finds indicate that the original
1940 reconstruction is quite inaccurate indeed. And thus, the
weight estimates of which (length 30-50 feet) have hitherto been
based on fragmentary data and are highly speculative. However,
the new discoveries have told us that this animal was much
smaller than originally thought. Although preservation of this
specimen is not good, it is the most complete example of a skull
found to date in the Park. It confirms previous suspicions that
the widely publicized reconstruction of the Deinosuchus skull
and jaws found on Fresno Creek in the 1940s is seriously flawed.
With more parts of Deinosuchus discovered, and with new specimen
should giving us a much more realistic idea of the animal's
structure, scientists have been able to compute a better weight
estimate for this gigantic crocodile. At best, the new estimate
is now 38-40 feet, and 2500 kilos to 5000 kilos, three to five
times more than the largest crocodiles alive today. The new
estimates were supported by extrapolating from the largest
recent crocodile, which is around 33 ft in length (In an
Australian crocodile farm I believe?).
At 5 tons though, Deinosuchus would have been able to prey on
dinosaurs. Indeed, some hardosaur fossils have been found with
crocodilian bite marks on them, so there you have it.
Still, the WWD 2-ton estimate seems rather low, but not as far
from the truth as we might imagine.
from Honkie Tong,
age 17,
?,
?,
?;
August 18, 2001
"I need to compare the dinosaurs to
modern day animals, mammalian, avian, reptilian, or whatever,
because these are the only examples we have to go on. If you
make statements about tyrannosaurus rex based on the fossil
evidence alone, you are making wildly speculative statements.
Any paleontologist will tell you that."
Hehe, but I'm not faulting you for making the compairisms, I'm
faulting your compairisms. By all means you should make
compairisms, but make good ones. You compairism of
Tyrannosaurids hearing to modern mammals completely misses the
fact that Tyrannosaurids had much better hearing than any of his
potential prey items! That would have been a good indication of
predatorial morphlogy! Your compairisms in no way refutes the
argument that Tyrannosaurus had the ears of a predator at all!
Of course, save the nose, the other senses of Tyrannosaurids
were also exceptional, the eyesight and particuarly, the
hearing. If it was a obgilate, land-based predator, it would not
need these adaptations. And there was evolutional selective
pressure for Tyrannosaurids to be considerably faster and more
agile than any other large dinosaur predaotr that ever lived,
and this is corresponded by a speed and agility increase in
Tyrannosaurid potential prey items. If it was a full scavenger,
it would have need to specialize its limbs to such an extent to move 25-40
percent more efficently and rapidly than the other large
predatory dinosaurs. Tyrannosaurids, Tyrannosaurus included,
were well adapted to kill their food actively.
from Leonard,
age 14,
?,
?,
?;
August 17, 2001
Oic, thanks Brad! I forgot to factor
in the height * length * breath thing.
from Leonard,
age 14,
?,
?,
?;
August 17, 2001
"But the crunch comes at the weight
estimate. Deinosuchus was only 1.8 times heavier than our 1 ton,
23-foot Crocodylus Porosus! That would make him weight in at
about 1.8 tons, or 1800 kilos, nearly two tons, round up to be
safe."
No, 1.8 times longer. Much heavier than that. Let's simplify
this by using a 90 cm Crocodylus skull, half the length of the
Deinosuchus skull. We can represent Crocodylus porosus with a
1x1x1 cm cube, and Deinosuchus with a 2x2x2 cm cube. While the
Deinosuchus cube is only twice as long, it weighs eight times
more. The Deinosuchus weight estimate is now 7-8 tons, which
would be much better for dragging dinosaurs into the
water!
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
August 17, 2001
Some of those people who say
tyrannosaurus could not kill a spinosaurus or a gigantosaurus
you guys are a pile of crap there is a slim chance if any for a
spinosaur which may only catch fish and scavenge and
gigantosaur is to slow also have any of you heard of
tyrannosaurus imperator dangit people you all know REX IS STILL
king thats like saying a smaller but faster boxer also strong
may I add will lose to a taller weaker slower boxer some of you
guys say your scientists well if you were really scientists you
wouldnt base your evidence on jurassic park 3 also I read an
article on a guy who found one of the spinosaur skeletons and
this is what he said "im glad I found a dinosaur bigger than
tyrannosaurus" and he also said "Tyrannosaurus is the
represenetive of bulk and power" so you guys can shove it up you
hole if you think those dinosaurs would wastte rex you guys are
of the minority of like 3 percent of 97 you guys need to look at
the fact that
trex is smarter stronger faster extremley stronger
jaws.
from Tyrannosaurus,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 17, 2001
I have a website dedicated to
tyrannosaurus rex it has him fighting spinosaurus,gigantosaurus,
rex vs a pack a deinonychus,poll, and many other things come in
and see it I will add something funny on the 25 of august come
check this site out
TREX RULES THE DINOSAURS
www.tyrannosaurus.cjb.net
from Tyrannosaurus,
age ?,
?,
?,
USA;
August 17, 2001
If the Loch Ness monster is some
kind of pilosaur like elasmosaurus, which he is rumored to be,
T-man will have no problem trashing his butt, even if he was 100
feet long. But I doubt nessie even exists.
from Damean,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 17, 2001
"His enormous length (55ft)and that
huge sail would prevent mobility. But on the other hand, if they
were on a riverbank, Spino would probably win because he is used
to the muddy terrain."
Yeah right, a clumslier and potentially heavier opponent like
Spinosaurus having the advantage in muddy terrain...it's like
saying a shark can beat a lion on dry land. Ya kidding. Besides,
how much of the world's land is riverbank? T-man will still have
the advantage (actually he'll have the advantage in muddy
terrain) in MOST areas, so it just goes to show he's superior.
So he'll beat Spino 19 out of 20 times, we T-man fans are
content with that. You can go gloss over your pathetic one
time.
from Damean,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 17, 2001
The size estimates of Deinosuchus,
the super croc.
When I was first confronted with the weight extimate of
Deinosuchus in WWD, I was a little boggled by the excessively
light weight estimate of 2 tons. I mean I have read extimates of
Deinosuchus weighting in at 7 - 14 tons! After doing a little
math, I realized these estimates were very excessive.
You see, the largest non-fossil croc skull we do have measures
slightly over a meter, from the largest crocodile alive today,
Crocodylus Porosus, or the Saltwater Crocodile. This skull came
from an individual who was over 23 feet long. Now, we can
compute the size estimate of Deinosuchus using this skull.
Deinosuchus had a skull that was 1.8 meters long, so it meant
that he was about 1.8 times larger than our 23-foot Crocodylus
Porosus with a 1 meter skull. That would make him 41.4 feet
long.
But the crunch comes at the weight estimate. Deinosuchus was
only 1.8 times heavier than our 1 ton, 23-foot Crocodylus
Porosus! That would make him weight in at about 1.8 tons, or
1800 kilos, nearly two tons, round up to be safe. Though it
seems light, Deinosuchus was considerably lighter than most
dinosaurs, despite his lenght. But frankly, this seems rational
as I can't imagine a 7-ton croc doing more than a slow amble on
his sprawed legs. There was a pratical limit to how much weight
the non-improved stance of the crocodilians could move with
efficency, and Deinosuchus was about it. Come to think of it, 2
tons seems very reasonable for Deinosuchus. But at 2-tons,
Deinosuchus was certainly capable of taking on hardosaur
dinosaurs by ambush at the waterside, and would happily
challange a Tyrannosaurus if it was in the water.
from Leonard,
age 14,
?,
?,
?;
August 17, 2001
"That is a poor analogy Jason,
comparing modern mammalian herbivore's sense of hearing to that
of T.Rex's. I don't see any relevance of that comparison."
I need to compare the dinosaurs to modern day animals,
mammalian, avian, reptilian, or whatever, because these are the
only examples we have to go on. If you make statements about
tyrannosaurus rex based on the fossil evidence alone, you are
making wildly speculative statements. Any paleontologist will
tell you that.
from Jason,
age 13,
Dayton,
Ohio,
USA;
August 17, 2001
I HAVE ALOT OF REASONS TO HAVE AN
INTEREST IN DINOSAURS,
1.IS BECAUSE I HAVE ONE IN MY HOUSE.
2.IS BECAUSE I AM 15 STONES.
I THINK THAT I AM AN AMERICAN.
I AM A STUDENT AT ABBOT BEYNE SCHOOL.
I HAVE BEEN BEATEN UP BY A GIRL.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO TWYCROSS ZOO.
I WILL BE BACK TO WRITE ANOTHER COMMENT
from ZIA-UL-HAQ,
age 12,
BURTON-UPON-TRENT(derby st),
STAFFORDSHIRE,
ENGLAND(UK);
August 17, 2001
Any Dinosaur Could Defeat
T.Rex.
from euoplacephulas,
age 8,
Alta,
CA,
USA;
August 17, 2001
T.rex will certainly take down the
Death Star.
Why is this you ask? Well it's rather simple. Since the T.rex is
this case is a superintelligent Tyrannosaurus rex osborn from
the Real World (tm.), he'll have no problem beating the Star
Wars Death Star.
You see, being from the Real World in which we live, any
superintelligent T.rex will have a complete and comprehensive of
how any movie is made, including Star Wars. So in essense, he
would have been able to control the Matrix (tm) of the Star
War's universe, quite easily.
Here's how it happens. T.rex simply, knowing that the Death Star
is actually all a gigantic movie prop, will have no problems
moving through the Death Star as he can simply create a door on
a wall and walk through it, and then remove it, just as the
Stormtroopers come around the corner, swearing there was a door
on that wall just now (Deja Vu, it's when they change things in
the Matrix). The Stormtroopers, whose minds are trapped inside
the Star Wars Matrix (tm), will be unable to comprehend all
this, much less control it.
And in the event of a fight, T.rex will have no problems, by the
artful mastery of the Star Wars Matrix (tm), doing amazing
matrix style moves like leading backwards while laser bolts head
towards him in slow-mo or doing flo-mo cartwheels through the
air while firing twin laser rifles gripped in his arms and
killing hundreds of Stormtroopers in amazing gymastic death
effects (like spinning along the X-axis through the air at 50
times a second after bring hit) while thousands of laser bolts
miss him. He'll have no problems walking right over all the
Empire, if he wanted to. He's from the real world anyway. How
did you think he managed to kill Vader?
T.rex saves the day! Go T.rex go!
from Leonard,
age 14,
?,
?,
?;
August 17, 2001
"There several animals that are non
predatory and have great senses of hearing. Take elephants. They
too have well developed ears for listening to low frequency
noises large distances away. Deers have good hearing, and they
also have directional hearing, useful in detecting wolves.
Hearing makes for good defense, too."
Of course, but then again, you fail to point out that
Tyrannosaurus was NOT a herbivore, nor was he using hearing for
defense! More importantly, in order to be able to catch your
prey, you have to have some sort of advantage over it.
Tyrannosaurids were able to hear frequencies of sound
considerably lower than most other dinosaurs, and this would
have given them a great advantage. They would be aware of the
prey in advance, and prehaps too steps to hunt (eg. Lead them
and wait in ambush). Tyrannosaurids had one of the best ears
around, certainly much better than any of their pontential prey
items.
Vultures. Nuff' said. Hyenas. Those animals are great examples
of scavanging creatures with great smell (and yes, the hyena is
also a predator)."
Uh oh...heynas are not, I repeat not great examples of
scavengers! In fact, they are sometimes observed to obtain more
than 90 percent of their food from hunting in certian areas! The
idea that heynas are mainly scavengers is an old mindset given
birth by an old idea that refused to die after new observations
were made. Heynas are in fact, one of the most competent hunters
in the african savannah. And they are not observed to scavenge
any more than the other terrestrial hypercarnivore in their
habitat, like lions. I save for the sense of smell, Vultures are
not built anywhat like Tyrannosaurids! They both had very
different adaptations for very different lifestyles. Here, I'll
illustrate a point to you:
Argument: Humans beings must be birds
Reason: Humans are bipedial, and all birds are, therefore,
humans must be birds.
Nuff said.
Obviously, the weaknesses of equating a scavenger lifestyle to
Tyrannosaurus due to it having a amazing nose like a vulture is
illustrated here. The design of Tyrannosaurus suggests that it,
unlike a vulture, was a very competent hunter indeed.
"Oh by the way, I wouldn't be worried about tiger sharks if I
were in a giant atomic submarine, complete with an armament of
nuclear missiles. Especially if I weren't stupid enough to hang
around in open water with an open wound."
Actually, I think you are just avoiding the point Honkie made
that animals with an amazing sense of smell are not necessary
scavengers.
" Nils, Spinosaurus had a powerful jaw. AARRGH! I dont wanna
repeat myself again, but if i have to, i will! "
Uh oh...bad mistake. Recent and closer investigation of
Spinosaurs, including FEA testing indicates that Spinosaurus had
a weak bite.
Can this be? Is T.rex actually beating the Death
Star?
from Leonard,
age 14,
?,
?,
?;
August 17, 2001
find a croc figure, spino had a croc
like
face croc`s are fiercly territtorial and if a rexy came in
byby
so also any carnivore would get tired of having only 2 things 2
eat.
PS a crocs jaws are so strong they even kill humans
somtimes
from Joe,
age ?,
?,
?,
USA;
August 17, 2001
A loch ness monster is a
pleisaur,19-26 ft long,it only ate fish,Spino was 45-50 gt long
and had teeth way sharper than a pleisaur, and a pliesaur is NOT
a dino,only a realtive.
from Joe,
age 9,
Midland,
MI,
USA;
August 17, 2001
Another one of those stupid posts by
some anti T-Rex person here:
You know Jason, you're like Horner. I think it would be better
if you two have sex with him if you're able to meet him. That
would be better for both of you. By the way, I read from a
previous post that Horner argued that T-Rex had a weak bite and
a lousy vision. How the hell can you trust a scientist like
that?
It's obvious (whether you're a Gigano or a Spino fan, it really
doesn't matter that much) that you're just here because you hate
T-Rex and you thought that maybe by posting anti T-Rex stuff,
you'll be able to convince smarter guys like Honkie Tong to
believe you. Actually, most of your posts are illogical, some of
them are laughable, and certainly almost all of them are
annoying. You're just practically wasting some precious web
space of this website by making your posts.
Jason's stupid argument number1 - T-rex's damn good nose is used
for scavenging.
That's the problem with Jason and that Horner person. They'll
produce lousy and irrelevant evidences, an argue all their life
that what they argue is true. But when some people smack at
their faces more direct evidences to debunk their argument,
they'll just ignore it.
One thing is for sure though, T-Rex is gifted with enough
physiology to be a pretty good predator, and a pretty good
killer of other predators too.
"There several animals that are non predatory and have great
senses of hearing. Take elephants. They too have well developed
ears for listening to low frequency noises large distances away.
Deers have good hearing, and they also have directional hearing,
useful in detecting wolves. Hearing makes for good defense, too.
Vultures. Nuff' said. Hyenas. Those animals are great examples
of scavanging creatures with great smell (and yes, the hyena is
also a predator). Oh by the way, I wouldn't be worried about
tiger sharks if I were in a giant atomic submarine, complete
with an armament of nuclear missiles. Especially if I weren't
stupid enough to hang around in open water with an open wound."
What f*ck*ng evidence do you have that he didn't use this for
predation?
Jason's stupid argument number 2 - Deer have good hearing but
the animal isn't a predator?
Again, what f*ck*ng evidence do you have that he didn't use this
for predation?
If you wanna convince T-Rex fans here to believe you, show us
some real direct evidence, will you? Even some of your arguments
like good nose even goes to the predation side rather than the
scavenging side.
Oh by the way, you're the same person that used the lousy 8
legged spider argument, right?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I don't care if they think T-Rex goes 20-25 mph. That's already
fast. And it's just a conservative estimate. Gigano's 15 mph is
laughable.
from Guile,
age 19,
Quezon City,
Metro Manila,
Philippines;
August 17, 2001
THE LOCH NESS MONSTER IS MY FAVERITE
DINO IT CAN BEAT ANYTHING EVEN T-REX AND SPINO
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 16, 2001
THE PREHISTORIC CROCODILIAN FAMILY
COULD BEAT ANY OF YALLS DINOS AND THEY MUST HAVE BEEN THE
SMARTEST TOO BECAUSE CROCODILIANS ARE STILL AROUND DINOS
AINT
THIS ONE GOES TO CRODILIANS
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 16, 2001
"Spino's prey
Don't get too drawn into the whole "all spinosaurids were
totally and assuredly piscivorous" line of thinking. While fish
scales were found inside of _Baryonyx_ remains, iguanodont
remains were found inside of it too. And there is no such
evidence for _Spinosaurus_, so we can only infer at what it
ate.
1. Fish
2. Sauropods (needs confirmation. And even if it's confirmed, so
what?)"
from Chandler,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 16, 2001
Nils, Spinosaurus had a powerful
jaw. AARRGH! I dont wanna repeat myself again, but if i have
to, i will! Spinosaurus could beat Rex. It depends first and
formost on who got the first bite in. Secondly, it depends on
location. For example, if Spino and rex are fighting int the
woods, Spino will get his tail kicked. His enormous length
(55ft)and that huge sail would prevent mobility. But on the
other hand, if they were on a riverbank, Spino would probably
win because he is used to the muddy terrain.
from Shane S.,
age 1000,
nowhere,
private property,
who cares?;
August 16, 2001
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DRAGON DRAGON DRAGON DRAGON DRAGON DRAGON DRAGON
^_^
from ???????????????,
age ?????,
????????,
?????????,
???????????;
August 16, 2001
That is a poor analogy Jason,
comparing modern mammalian herbivore's sense of hearing to that
of T.Rex's. I don't see any relevance of that
comparison
from C.INGENS,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 16, 2001
All about Dinosaurs!
Dinosaur nostrils get relocated By Greg
MillerStudy suggests they were much closer to the tip of the
snout than thought, overturning a century-old misconception
Dinosaurs' nostrils have moved. New research suggests they were
much closer to the tip of the snout than previously thought. The
study overturns a century-old misconception and could lead to
new insights into dinosaur physiology and behaviour.Simply
looking at a dinosaur skull gives few clues about the location
of the fleshy nostrils, the openings in the skin that allow air
to pass in and out. That is because the bony nasal openings can
extend half the length of the skull - more than 60 centimetres
in some cases.Yet the location of the fleshy nostrils has
implications for more than just pictures in natural history
books. The design of the nose influences a wide range of vital
functions, says the study's author, Lawrence Witmer of Ohio
University. Image: Science, W L Parsons/L M WitmerA long nasal
passage conserves warmth and fluids by allowing exhaled air to give up much of its
heat and water content before leaving the body. A long passage
also filters out more particulate matter and collects more air
for olfactory receptors. But with the traditional nostril
position, the nasal passage is quite short."A little knowledge
of fluid flow tells you that with the nostril in its traditional
position, the nasal system will function less than optimally,
whether it is used for olfaction, to control water loss, or most
any other function that relies on air movement," says John
Altringham, a professor of biomechanics at Leeds University.
http://dsc.discovery.com/stories/dinos/dinos.html?ct=187.68310546875
http://www.yahooligans.com/Science_and_Nature/Living_Things/Animals/Extinct_Animals/Dinosaurs/
http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=Dinosaurs%21
http://www.google.com/search?q=Dinosaurs
bye. And
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anyways here are my FAVORITE dinosaur sites. you can go to them
if you whant.
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Arena/4836/jurassic.html
news of the website:(from dillophosaurus)Hi welcome to my
website, it makes me happy to see all the people who have visted
my website it cought me off gard to see all the hits to my
little webpage. I wish I could update more but I do not have
anything to up date with. If someone wants to they can e-mail me
for suggestions my e-mail is at the bottom of my page. But one
piece of Information I do have is I recieved an e-mail from one
of the programers of the Jurassic Park game"tresspassers" That
the Dilophosaurus is not in the Game*weep* and that Micheal
Crichton told him that the Dilophosaurus was only created on Isa
Numbla and wasn't on Site B.But I told him to tell Mr. Crichton
to put the Dilophosaurus in whatever new Jurassic Park Project
he does( like he will listen to me anyway)But I dont mind
Mr.Crichton is a smart and creative man and I support whatever
he does in the future but seeing the Dilophosaurus would be
nice.(he was one of the only Jurassic Dinos in Jurassic Park!
) Thanks for coming to my site and e-mail me if you want to
suggest anything.
from The most fersome creature EVER to
walk the earth,
age who knows,
DINOSAUR WORLD,
DINOSAUR WORLD,
PANGEA!;
August 16, 2001
I HAVE ALOT OF INTEREST IN DINASAURS
ESPECIALLY FIERCE ONES.
I LIKE T-REX
from Babar k,
age 13,
BURTON-UPON-TRENT,
STAFFORDSHIRE,
ENGLAND;
August 16, 2001
"Spino's prey
It's also worth noting that we have no confirmation for
Spinosaurus eating fish either.
1. Fish
2. Sauropods (needs confirmation. And even if it's confirmed, so
what?)"
from Brad,
age 14,
Woodville,
ON,
Canada;
August 16, 2001
"Tyrannosaurus had extremely well
developed ears (from the examination of Sue, who had wonderfully
preserved inner ears) that are capable of detecting frequencies
of sound much lower than what most other dinosaurs are capable
of hearing. Tyrannosaurus had one of the best ears in the
mezonic. If you're wondering how this helps in predation, being
able to detect extremely low frequencies is extremely useful in
finding your prey as low frequencies travel the furthest and are
extremely useful in decting your prey from a distance. Even
modern predators like lions show exceptional hearing, leopards,
being night hunters, have extremely good ears too. Another
predatory adaptation we have to note is that Tyrannosaurus' had
directional hearing, meaning that he could not only hear his
prey a distance off, he could also tell from which direction it
was. But I personally believe that he would first be tipped off
by sent. A good sense of hearing is quite useful to an animal in terms of hunting. We poor humans are quite
limited in our hearing, that's why we can't "see" how good
hearing can help."
There several animals that are non predatory and have great
senses of hearing. Take elephants. They too have well developed
ears for listening to low frequency noises large distances away.
Deers have good hearing, and they also have directional hearing,
useful in detecting wolves. Hearing makes for good defense, too.
"I'm not entirely certain animals with good noses must have been
scavengers. After all, sharks are the owner of an amazing nose,
and I don't find myself comforting myself that I'm safe when I'm
bleeding in water surrounded with Tiger Sharks just because they
had a great nose and must have been scavengers!"
Vultures. Nuff' said. Hyenas. Those animals are great examples
of scavanging creatures with great smell (and yes, the hyena is
also a predator). Oh by the way, I wouldn't be worried about
tiger sharks if I were in a giant atomic submarine, complete
with an armament of nuclear missiles. Especially if I weren't
stupid enough to hang around in open water with an open
wound.
from Jason,
age 13,
Dayton,
Ohio,
USA;
August 16, 2001
The most recent embodiment of "The
Hollywood Factor" saved us hapless earthlings from total
destruction by allowing a drunk cropduster to take out a 15 mile
wide alien assault vehicle and allowed a cable instalation guy
and F-18 fighter jock to fly a 30 year old alien vehicle, get
inside a 500 km mother ship with absolutely no authentification,
AND hook up a power-mac to a completly alien computer network,
in order to plant a virus inside the ship's computer which by
all odds should not even be using an operating system remotely
similar to one on earth.
If "The Hollywood Factor" is able to suspend reality to the
point such as above, T-rex's escapade in the Death Star should
be a snap. At least the inhabitants of the Death Star speak
english. Just make sure he has a power mac....
from Will and Amy T.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 16, 2001
Ewoks beat the Empire, and were
stupid. Any questions?
from Cory D.,
age 13,
Endor City,
Endor,
Endor;
August 16, 2001
This was a hard decision. On the one
hand, you have Darth Vader's glowing blue ghost floating around,
trying to tell everyone where T.Rex is hiding. However, when
nobody can find him in the air shafts, Vader suffocates half the
crew in a fit of rage. Just as Vader is trying to tell the other
half that T.Rex is down THIS air shaft instead of THAT air shaft
(we all know how stupid storm troopers are), the Energizer Bunny
walks by, and Vader, pissed of by that cheezy commercial, orders
everyone to open fire on the Rabbit. By some undefined law of TV
physics (tm), the power cells in every blaster are transformed
into Supervolt (tm) batteries, guaranteed to run out of power
when you need them (tm). Now Vader kills the other half of the
crew for letting a pink rabbit beat them. Then Vader's Ghost
gets an Idea! Why can't he kill T.Rex like he does storm
troopers? He runs down T.Rex outside the main reactor control
room (I wonder what this big red button does?) and tries his strangulation trick on T.Rex. Crap. You can't
Strangle someone with a light saber from a distance, and
especially not good guys! So, the enraged Vader blows an
ethereal bolt and shorts out the reactor controls in his self
destructive rage. T.Rex finds one of the Star Wars turbolifts
(tm) and heads to the 3593rd floor (lingerie, sporting goods,
and shuttle bays) and flies out on a captured imperial shuttle,
returning to New York to be kidnapped by men in black and taken
to area 59, after which the air force and the CIA will deny that
the whole thing ever happened.
from Cory D.,
age 13,
Endor City,
Endor,
Endor;
August 16, 2001
*Khhhhhhhhhhh* *Khhhhhhhhh*
*Khhhhhhhhhhhh*
Well, I think the T.Rex would get stuck in the corridors,
because they were made for people, but I think he could make his
own corridors ;).
"T.Rex, I am your father"
"Lies Vader! All lies!"
from DW,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 16, 2001
OK guys, I was here in July and am
surprised to see this Spino vs. T-rex thing still going on.
Isnt it obvious, Spino fans think Spino could win, T-rex fans
think T-rex could win.
My personal belief was and still is that it just depends on the
day. In other words, anyones game.
Perhaps we need to take this to celebrity death match!!!
OK, lets speculate on another fights.
T-rex vs Steve & Terri Irwin (croc hunter)!
LOL!
Let judge mills lane decide this one!
from SpinosaurusFanForLife,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 16, 2001
A drizzle of consciousness
precipitated by recent discussions concerning Trexie:-
Tyrannosaurus is a scavenger because...
(a) Its arms are too short.
Right. This agrees nicely with the recent suggestion that
Crocodylus porosus isn't the nastiest thing with teeth after
all, but merely scavenges the bodies of the Yankee tourists who
are cooperative enough to pass away (in shock?) just in front of
it. Hmm...what about the armless snakes? Anaconda? Python? They
must be just scavengers! The footage we see of them killing deer
and antelope on discovery must be fake. I don't think rexie
needed arms too much.
(b) Its thigh (femur) bones were too long.
He's right again, you know. There's this bipedal primate with a
femur/tibia ratio > 1, and it can't manage anything faster than
a sexy saunter. And what exactly does he mean by too long?
Tyrannosaurus had thigh bones that were very much shorter than
other carnivorous dinosaurs like the Allosaurids or Ceratosaurs
(so they must have made better scavengers). I don't buy Horner's
observations on rexie locomotion as his claims were indeed
disputed by others who DO actually go into detail studying
dinosaur locomotion.
(c) Predators need good vision, and therefore large eyes.
Next time I'm in the water, bleeding profusely from coral cuts,
I shall reassure myself that the shark circling me can't eat me
because its vision is not as good as its sense of
smell...Besides, T.rexie had one of the largest eyes (eyeball
the size of a human head I believe) of all the dinosaurs! Pretty
funny how Horner could call them small...besides, super-keen
eyed eagles have small eyes for their size and they do just
well.
And as for the keen sense of smell? Well, my recollection of N.
American vegetation types during the end [of the] Cretaceous is
dim (I was only young at the time) but wasn't there something
about all these big dense forests? With these elephant sized
ceratopsians (the 's' is for snack, as in 'rex food) trotting
around in them? For those of you who have not undergone the
bowel loosening experience of being close to some Elephants in
the middle of dense forest, I can assure you that you can smell
and hear them a long time before you can see them (and Asian
elephants aren't that much smaller that African elephants).
[It's] A skill you pick up very quickly. If I was trying to dine
on pachyderm in such a habitat a good snozzler would be very
useful - but I'd still need binocular vision for the final
attack.
Other factors which are relevant - does the energetics of the
situation permit such a large animal, or even any terrestrial
animal, to exist on scavenging alone? It's not as if your
Triceratops is going to be dying very often if the T. rex isn't
killing it (can you image any other beast capable of preying on
Triceratops?). If it's such an exclusive scavenger, then why
aren't the teeth and forelimbs adapted to manipulating bones to
get the most out of them (it can't be a scavenger because it's
arms are too short!)
from Colin M.,
age 18,
New York,
?,
United States;
August 16, 2001
AHEM! the Giant Gator does not
exist. Not unless you want to count a 200 foot concrete
alligator model...
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 16, 2001
The fictional Giant Gator lurks
quietly in the waters of the riverbank, his target is near, he
can feel its vibrations trasmitted from such a heavy object
moving through the ground and into the water where he is. He
raises his head slowly, carefully to check on his prey.
For a moment, he is confused by what he sees, for it didn't
looked like what he expected to see. But he was sure it was his
target, he had heard them call it by the name of "T.rex".
He would kill this Tyrannosaurus.
Plotting his attack carefully, the Giant Gator moved slowly
towards the shallower waters as the Tyrannosaurus approaches,
unaware. It will be an easly kill. Most Tyrannosauruses reach 12
meters long, but this one is a mere 9 meters long, an easy kill
for the fictional Giant Gator.
Now is the time! The Giant Gator lunges forward out of the water
just as the Tyrannosaurus creeped too near to the water's edge.
He slams his massive jaws onto the front of the T.rex, but the
T.rex did not scream, it did not struggle, in fact, it did not
even react.
The Giant Gator had a moment of surprise as he found that his
teeth were not sinking into the target. No matter, no time for
such considerations, he attempts to go into one of his deadly
death rolls in which he would literally twist his body around
and around to tear the T.rex caught in his jaws apart. He heaves
to one side, but to his surprise, he is unable to roll as the
T.rex clamped within his jaws refused to bulge. Something is
really wrong here.
Using his massive strength and weight, the fictional alligator
tries to drag the passive T.rex underwater. The T.rex is
surprisingly heavy. In fact, he is having a lot of trouble
trying to buldge it alone. He manages to drag it about 2 meters
before the T.rex kicked up twin pumes of mud and literally
jumped backwards, ripping itself out of his jaws and pulling out
four of the Giant Gator's deeply-rooted teeth. The T.rex moves
back 5 meters and waits.
The Giant Gator knows something is seriously wrong, he opens his
jaws wide as a gesture of threat, hoping to intimidate this
T.rex. The T.rex on the other hand, pointed what appeared to be
its jaws at him. There was a moment of silence, the tension in
the air was intense...
In a eye-searing flash, the jaws of the T.rex exploded into a
gigantic ball of flame, the sound intense, and the Giant Gator
had a moment of surprise as he felt a High Explosive Anti Tank
round hit the inside of his open mouth and exploded. There was a
moment of disorentation and he felt like he was flying through
the air. It was impossible, how could he be knocked flying? The
sky and the ground switched places, indicating he was in
inverted flight, and he saw his massive, bulky body below,
headless.
He had seperated from his body.
Then it all went black.
Nothing.
Sgt. Mackall opened the hatch to let the foul smell of ammonium
propellant out of the turret and he stuck his head and shoulders
out of the hatch to look at the target. The head of the
fictional gigantic alligator had been entirely blown off,
leaving a messy, ragged stump behind that is now still bleeding
sparodically. The HEAT round he had fired from his 120mm gun had
done its job very well. It was a confirmed kill.
"Good shooting Woody." Mackall said.
"No prob Sarge," The gunner said. "That muffin man was no match
for T.rex...what next? Spinosaurus?"
"Very well, lets go hunt other animals with their size estimates
blown way off on purpose to make the world a more logical
place." Mackall said. "Let's roll out!"
As the 70-ton M1A2 Abrams tank powered up its gas turbine engine
and accelerated rapidly away from the dead body of the Giant
Gator, the animal had no way of knowing that the Abrams tank was
also called the "T.rex"...
from Sodakar,
age 14,
?,
?,
?;
August 16, 2001
If those Gigano fans will use the
same lousy statement that Horner used on T-Rex, they're the ones
that will be hurt by the statement.
Tyrannosaurus is obviously the better predator of the two. Nuff
said!
Or maybe, Gigano may have hunted more because he hunted
dinosaurs that are as slow and as dumb as he is.
from Guile,
age 19,
Quezon City,
Metro Manila,
Philippines;
August 16, 2001
T-rex would easily halt the advance
of the Death Star for a number of reasons.
First, the admiralty of the Empire are complete morons. It is
truly amazing that there even is an Empire besides a few Death
Stars and TIE fighters floating around. For instance, why put a
Death Star anywhere near Endor. The main raw material source and
work force available are bunches of big trees and rabid teddy
bears. A more logical tactic would have been to build the thing
in the middle of the rebel fleet. Also,the only kind of
confrontation the admirals can tactically overcome is the
frontal assualt like when they destroyed the rebel base on Hoth.
Even then, almost all the rebels managed to escape while the
Empire was making crushed ice for their margueritas. They
wouldn't know how to handle an insurgent.
Secondly, T-rex has this amazing ability to hide and appear in
rooms or spaces that are too small to enter without anybody
noticing. Just look at the ending of the first and best Jurassic
Park movie where T-rex appeared out of nowhere to attack the
raptors in the center of the hall with no doors large enough to
let him in! Even better, nobody noticed the 45-foot, 6-ton T-rex
until he ambush the raptors! From all appearances, Death Stars
are nothing but a bunch of shafts surrounded by a metal skin
with a few rooms thrown in to house the stormtroopers. T-rex is
on his home turf. He can hide anywhere from the pansies in white
becuse they can't even turn their heads due to those stupid
helmets and his natural ultra-stealth abilities. With the
ability of T-rex to move through spaces too small for him, he'll
have no problems acessing the Death Star to wreck havoc.
Lastly, you have both acknowledged the most important point
while overlooking its importance! T-rex will clearly survive
long enough to kill a great many people, with only Stromtroopers
chasing him. But why kill 37,000 white geeks? All he must do is
kill three shifts of firing engineers (hampered by dorky hats),
the admirals (who all stay in one conference room whining
anyway), and maybe a technician or two. Do you think a
STORMTROOPER would be able to fire the Big Gun? Not only does
Earth survive, but once the Stormtroopers have been eliminated,
the Death Star is now in the possession of Earth, ready to blow
wrinkly old Palpatine right out of his galaxy.
from John Rambo,
age 15,
?,
?,
?;
August 16, 2001
euoplacephulas is losing it. T-rex
will blow up the death star
from ?,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
August 16, 2001
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