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Trivia!
1) What does Lophorhothon's name mean?
2) This: Dynamosaurus Imperiosus
3) What was a Stenopterygius?
is the incorrect name for which dinosaur?
from da masta,
age ?,
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January 4, 2002
"Yes, I guess that the fact that
Dromeosaurids had slender bodies and hollow bones *AND A STIFF TAIL, AND
THE FEMUR:TIBIA RATIO ISN'T THAT AWFUL AFTER ALL.* could suggest that
they were fast.
I'm not excatcly saying Domreosaurids were slow, just that they were not
built for speed."
Hmm, they do appear to have more characteristics that help them to run
faster, than otherwise...
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 5, 2002
"Khaan was actually an Oviraptorsaur form
Mongolia."
Oh...
So what's that dinosaur with the teeth at the end of it's mandible
sticking out forwards at the front?
from da masta,
age ?,
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?;
January 5, 2002
"I know this is old news, but I just wanted
to say that it is probably fiction to say Elephants can run no faster
than 15mph.(Although they seldom tried to.) But when upset or threatened,
they can run at speeds of up to 25 mph. (40kmh)"
Yeah, elephants are generally peacefull animals, and seeing as they are
so big, they are very rarely frightened of anything. Unless you surprise
one, and it either runs away or charges you.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 5, 2002
I know this is old news, but I just wanted to say that it is probably fiction to say Elephants can run no faster than
15mph.(Although they seldom tried to.) But when upset or threatened, they
can run at speeds of up to 25 mph. (40kmh)
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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January 4, 2002
Khaan was actually an Oviraptorsaur form Mongolia.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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January 4, 2002
Yes, I guess that the fact that Dromeosaurids
had slender bodies and hollow bones could suggest that they were
fast.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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?,
?;
January 4, 2002
I'm not excatcly saying Domreosaurids were
slow, just that they were not built for speed.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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January 4, 2002
All right, I'll tell Diloph.
from Gianna,
age ?,
?,
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January 4, 2002
Da Masta - yes, i really like star trek, but i'm not sure about the new one yet. The show is ok but I don't like the music in the new one, it is soooooooo soooooooo wrong.
from Jason,
age ?,
?,
?, ?;
I would like to explain something.
Earlier Honkie made a big fuss about my post in which I was kinda dissing
the person (sorry, I forgot your name, but it's been a while,) who said I
was like bin Laden.
Well, I think that he was making a storm in a teacup, (I'm not saying
that sept. 11th was minor and unimportant, I'm saying that my post was.)
and I wasn't making a joke either. I was partly dissing bin laden, and
partly dissing the person who compared to me to him. (OK, Sorry, but you
wouldn't like it either if you where compared to bin Laden, would
you?)
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
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January 4, 2002
"Isn't Sauropodus a nomen nudum?"
Yes, it is, but it's obviously a dinosaur!
from da masta,
age ?,
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January 4, 2002
Oh, the picture thing is with the post your
story thing... sorry.
from da masta,
age ?,
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January 4, 2002
"WHERE CAN I GET THE LATEST DINO NEWS."
Thanks Tim. Oh yeah! There's a news thingy here?! Great! Where is it
though?
I don't think ZoomDinosaurs needs any improvement, I like it as it
is.
Well, Dinodata.net has a news index,and so does Zoomdinosaurs. The
Dinosauricon might also have one, I don't remember."
It's got all I need now, anyway.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
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?;
January 4, 2002
"The bigger ones might have been faster, but
that wouldn't really matter becasue dromeosaurids in general are not
built for speed."
Ah, but that's where you're wrong. The only thing against them is "quite
stocky limbs" and "small size," the sticky limbs, well, OK, and the small
size can actually be a benefit if they ran in suspension. Why do you
think they had such a lightweight hollow skeleton? :-)
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
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January 4, 2002
"Isn't Sauropodus a nomen
nudum?" I guess so. But it's still new in 2001, right!??? what percent of nomen nudems become real genus'?
from Jason,
age ?,
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Are you a Trekkie Jason?
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
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January 4, 2002
"Thr bigger ones had to be faster. Its like
racing a horse and a pony. You know whol'd win."
Yeah, but ponies have much stockier limbs than equus, although they can
manage surprisingly fast bursts of speed!
But I see your point. As they had longer limbs, the bigger dromies could
run faster. Actually, I have this other theory. Ever seen a cheetah run?
On TV? Well, it kind of leaps, when it's running it spends more time with
it's feet off the ground than on it. Gracile limbs aren't essential for
that, you need powerfull limbs to jump, that's the important thing when
jumping. So I think that dromies ran in a similar way when they run long
distance, by leaping it. It also helps to conserve energy!
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 4, 2002
"The hindlimbs of dormeosaurids are stockier
than those of other theropods of their size. Their limbs were made for
power, not speed. So dromeosaurids were not very fast as Theropods go."
Yeah, 35mph is a bit of an overstatement, but I'll let it go.
I think that dromies relied on catching their target before they tired
out, I think they couldn't maintain high speeds for prolonged periods of
time, cheetahs for instance, if they don't catch the gazelle in 1 minute
they stop, because if they don't they'll suffer from severe dehydration.
Same goes for dromies, in my opinion.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
?,
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January 4, 2002
"how fast would you say certain Dromeosaurids
could run?"
Yeah, that's quite accurate in my opinion, but dromies had better
manouverability than any other dinosaur species. Utahraptor's max. speed
was probably 30 - 35mph for short bursts, but if it wanted to maintain
speed then 25mph would be more accurate.
According to John Ostrom, Deinonychus could run 40kph (25mph). I bet the
bigger ones could be much faster."
from da masta,
age ?,
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January 4, 2002
There's all this talk right now about the
speed of dromaesaurids, so I'll try to say what I think. Good job those
hardcore rex fans have gone, or they'll all be dissing dromies and
writing annoying passionate essays about the "superiority" of T - Rex.
Different scientists think differently. Ostrom and Bakker think that they
where very fast, (the generally accepted view!) and various others who I
couldn't be bothered to remeber think otherwise. The Rex fans took the
obvious choice for them, and whenever someone said raptors where fast,
the Rex fans where upon them with their facts, theories, etc. about
dromies being slow.
Dromaesaurids did have robust limbs, and also due to their small size,
this meant that if they didn't run in suspension, they would not really
be very fast. However, unlike T - Rex, I think that dromies had no reason
not to run in suspension, in fact I say that they did.
Rex fans have long had it that they had very bad femur:tibia ratios, so I
took a look myself, and guess what?
The Deinonychus skeleton I was looking at had a femur:tibia ratio of
about 1.00:1.15. Adult T - Rexes where about 1:1 (but that doesn't
matter, T - Rex didn't walk in suspension.) That isn't really so bad
though, is it? And compared to body size, the limbs wheren't as robust.
The Rex fans must have been exaggerating, naughty naughty.
They also had very powerful muscles, there where lots of muscle scars
indicating very powerfull tibialis anterior (lifts the foot up when you
walk,) and quadriceps femoris (straightens the knee,) muscles. I also saw
that there was quite possibly a very strong sartorius muscle, which bends
the leg and twists the thigh outwards when you walk, giving you good
manouverability.
So it looks like deinonychus could run , and about 25mph as Ostrom said.
We also should take into consideration that dromies had light, slenderly
built skeletons, making them even faster. The manouverability is also
improved by the tail. Dromaesaurids had some of the stiffest tails in the
animal kingdom, most of the tail was kept totally stiff by long,
overlapping bony rods. It could only swivel at the base. This tail could
be used to help do sharp turns, when chasing fast prey, like
tenontosaurus. Dromies had excellent eyesight, even better than T - Rex,
their eyes where very large compared to skull size, like icthyosaurs,
dromaesaurids have sclerotic rings (bony rings that help to hold large
eyeballs in place, present only in animals with eyes very large in
proportion to body size,) indicating large eyeballs, and the forward
facing position of the eyes would help to judge distance, speed, etc.
Sure T - Rex was good, but that is no reason to put down Dromies.
However, due to their lightweight build, and poor ability to soak up
damage, I think only dromies the size and power of Deinonychus and
Utahraptor hunted truly large prey. The rest hunted animals no bigger
than themselves, but they where deadly efficient.
from da masta,
age ?,
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January 4, 2002
Gianna, you wouldn't mind doing me a small favour?
Tell Diloph that now you have to be a supporter to put up posts, the
people of the type which wheren't being nice to him a short while ago are
gone, and I don't predict any number of them to ever come here now. It's
just me, Tim, you, and some new people who appear 100% safe.
Tell him that I think this site will sure be worth the money should he
decide what I want him to decide, and tell him that we all want him back.
Please.
from da masta,
age ?,
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January 4, 2002
Isn't Khaan that south african dinosaur, and
the teeth at the end of it's mandible stick out forwards?
from da masta,
age ?,
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January 4, 2002
"It nice to see you again da masta.*I COULD
NEVER LEAVE HERE FOR TOO LONG!* As you can see, virtually everyone has
dissapeared. (Brad, Honkie, T-master,Leonard, John...)
In fact, I'm certain that it's to do with it. The reasons I think may
well be:
1) It hasn't yet got to them that they can use their parents for it.
2) They don't quite trust giving credit card numbers and personal
information online, despite the privacy policy, there is still the worry,
not that paypal or JC are untrustable, no, it's just that it's a bit
uncomfortable giving personal info. online, where hackers etc. can get to
it, it feels vulnerable.
However I think this site is worth eveything!
Maybe it's beacause they can't or won't support this site."
(which is the less likely option, since it says "you OR your family" on
this screen where you type.
from da masta,
age ?,
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January 4, 2002
Isn't Sauropodus a nomen
nudum?
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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Doesnt anyone want to vote for the coolest dinosaur named in 2001? I already vote for Khaan - supremely the best. Draconyx is second best. And to gianna "Khaan is pretty cool, but....." but WHAT???? Some of the other dinos nemed in 2001 are Citipati, Eotyrannus, Gobisaurus, Khaan, Rapetosaurus, Ricardoestesia, Saltriosaurus, Sauropodus. There's a long list at www.dinodata.net/Dd/Namelist/DYR/2001.htm
from Jason,
age 13,
Bakersfield, CA,
USA, ;
January 3, 2002
"WHERE CAN I GET THE LATEST DINO NEWS."
Well, Dinodata.net has a news index,and so does Zoomdinosaurs. The
Dinosauricon might also have one, I don't remember.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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January 3, 2002
"When was Nurosaurus formally described?"
That was a trick question, because Nurosaurus HAS NOT YET BEEN formally
described.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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January 3, 2002
"the longest necked dino is sauroposeidon --- mamenchisaurus is ssecond.
from Ian,
age ?,
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January 2, 2002
"T-MASTER HAS DONE THIS ONE BEFORE!"
(chuckles)
Actually, it was me who did that question earlier. I liked it so I
decided to re-do it again.
It nice to see you again da masta. As you can see, virtually everyone has
dissapeared. (Brad, Honkie, T-master,Leonard, John...)
Maybe it's beacause they can't or won't support this site.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
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?;
January 3, 2002
"I haen't done this in a while, so I guess
I'll post some trivia for anyone who wants to try it: *YAY!*
What year was Styracosaurus described?
UH...
What was the wingspan of Pterodaustro?
4M?
What does the name "Segnosaurus" mean?
SLOW LIZARD. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTION TO DO WITH LATIN, I THINK. NOT TOO
HARD APART FROM I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT "WHAT DATE WAS THAT?" QUESTIONS!
TIM, PLEASE, WHERE CAN I GET THE LATEST DINO NEWS?
Try it!
from da masta,
age ?,
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January 3, 2002
Here's some more trivia: *GOODY!*
What does the name Lanasaurus mean?
THANKS TIM!
"WOOL," OR "FUZZ" LIZARD, AFTER "FUZZ" CROMPTON! T - MASTER HAS DONE THIS
ONE BEFORE! IT'S A GOOD ONE ANYWAY.
When was Nurosaurus formally described? ;)
UH... NO IDEA, TO BE FRANK.
Here's an easy one:
Which dinosaur had the longest neck?
SAUROPSEIDON. MAMMENCHISAURUS A CLOSE SECOND.
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
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January 3, 2002
""I think Da masta is gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Oh no!
Hey guys, don't worry, I'm still here! (Sorry to dissapoint you John,
Leonard and Honkie, but your arch nemesis is back! With no bad
intentions, of course!) This site is so good that I could never leave it.
I guess this means I'll have less posts to answer then, meaning that I
send less posts, meaning less bandwidth. And the post your picture thing
seems to be gone. But it's real good that the vote your fav dino forum is
back! Yay! But it's 10:00 now, so I guess I'll have to answer all the
posts over the last few days tommorow. And JC, I'll try to put up less
posts, but it's not easy, me being me! I like to talk to
EVERYONE.
from Gianna, age ?, ?, ?, ?; January 2, 2002
Gianna, please read the notices at the top of the page - as of yesterday,
we've changed the way we operate. JC"
from da masta,
age ?,
?,
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January 3, 2002
You can put up all the posts you like. JC
(At least I think I've supported... I asked
my parents to do it for me, and it should be done by now, if not just
tell me.)
Dan W., how fast would you say certain Dromeosaurids could run?
I can't really argue because I don't excactly know what you mean.
Because I certainly don't think any of them could exceed 30 mph.
And definetly not Velociraptor, which had to small of a stride to run
very fast.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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?,;
January 2, 2002
Here's some more trivia:
What does the name Lanasaurus mean?
When was Nurosaurus formally described? ;)
Here's an easy one:
Which dinosaur had the longest neck?
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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January 3, 2002
The bigger ones might have been faster, but
that wouldn't really matter becasue dromeosaurids in general are not
built for speed.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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January 3, 2002
Khaan mckennai is an interesating dinosaur,
but my personal favorite of 2001 was Citipati , an Oviraptorsaur that
could have been up to 3m long.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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January 3, 2002
The Favorite Dinosaur site is back! I'm
going!
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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January 3, 2002
Correct, Jason!
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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January 3, 2002
"I think Da masta is gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Oh no!
from Gianna,
age ?,
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January 2, 2002
Gianna, please read the notices at the top of the page - as of yesterday, we've changed the way we operate. JC
"What do you think was the coolest dinosaur
named in 2001?"
I really dunno, Khaan is pretty cool, but.....
from Gianna,
age ?,
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January 2, 2002
ALERT!!!!
The Favorite Dinos section's back! I'm going back to it, are any of
you!
from Gianna,
age ?,
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?;
January 2, 2002
Tim M., 1. 1913, 2. 4 feet, 3. slow lizard. That was EZ!!!!!!!!
from Jason
age 13,
Bakersfield, CA,
USA, ;
January 2, 2002
What do you think was the coolest dinosaur named in 2001? I would vote for Khaan - it had the best name ever for a dinosaur. Right out a of a Star Trek movie.
from Jason,
age 13,
Bakersfield, CA,
USA, ;
January 2, 2002
"I didn't mean to make those typos on my last post. It's hard typing in the little window.
from Ian,
age ?,
?,
?, ;
January 2, 2002
"Thr bigger ones had to be faster. Its like racing a horse and a pony. You know whol'd win.
from Ian,
age ?,
?,
?, ;
January 2, 2002
The hindlimbs of dormeosaurids are stockier than those of other theropods of their size. Their limbs were made for power, not speed. So dromeosaurids were not very fast as Theropods
go.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2002
I haen't done this in a while, so I guess
I'll post some trivia for anyone who wants to try it:
What year was Styracosaurus described?
What was the wingspan of Pterodaustro?
What does the name "Segnosaurus" mean?
Try it!
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?,
?;
January 2, 2002
Well, the bigger Dromeosaurids definetly
could travel more distance per step, but some palontologists would
disagree with the argument:
Sheesh, I read a book written by a paleontologist on this subject!
"The larger dromeosaurids are very fast."
I'll get ack to you, Ian.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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January 2, 2002
"how fast would you say certain Dromeosaurids could run?"
According to John Ostrom, Deinonychus could run 40kph (25mph). I bet the bigger ones could be much faster.
from Ian,
age ?,
?,
?, ;
January 2, 2002
By the way, JC, where did the posts from
December 30th through January 1st go? I can't find them.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
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January 2, 2002
December 30-31, 2001 was archived (I just fixed the link, which I had forgotten to include). This page was down on Jan. 1, 2002. JC
Dan W., how fast would you say certain Dromeosaurids could run?
I can't really argue because I don't excactly know what you mean.
Because I certainly don't think any of them could exceed 30 mph.
And definetly not Velociraptor, which had to small of a stride to run
very fast.
from Tim M.,
age ?,
?,
?, ;
January 2, 2002
I think Da masta is gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
from Ian,
age I won't tell,
Des Moines, Iowa, USA;
January 2, 2002
Da masta i think your wrong about raptors. it may not have been as fast as any ornithomimids but still very
fast.
from DanW,
age ?,
?,
?,
{I can't that find that e-mail address - make sure you typed it correctly, JC};
January 2, 2002
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